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re: I wonder if Stingley is a little ticked right now...
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:04 am to moneyg
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:04 am to moneyg
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As a college fan,
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As an NFL fan
Take off your fan hat for a second and put yourself in Stingley's shoes or the shoes of his family. The current rule might be best for CFB, for the NFL, for coaches, for GMs, and maybe even for fans. But it is not best for the people who actually face the most risk in this affair and that is the players themselves.
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 8:13 am
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:08 am to PhillyFan1994
League rule
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:18 am to moneyg
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As a college fan, I'm very grateful that we have a system that encourages guys like Stingley to play college football for 3 years.
As an NFL fan, I'm very grateful that players are developed enough to contribute immediately when they are drafted. It's much better than teams drafting unknown quantities and having to hold on to them for a couple of years.
Both situations are good for the game.
I don’t think a player leaving after 1 year is good for either fan. As a college fan you get one year of watching the player which yes that sucks but as an NFL fan how pissed would you be if a guy becomes a free agent at 22 years old and signs with someone else. Especially if he had really started to develop in his last 1-2 seasons.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:20 am to PhillyFan1994
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Take off your fan hat for a second and put yourself in Stingley's shoes or the shoes of his family. The current rule might be best for CFB, for the NFL, for coaches, for GMs
Would 100% not be beneficial for GMs. They would have 1st guys becoming free agents at 22 years old before they even come near their prime and risk losing them to another team.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:32 am to PhillyFan1994
I’m a little ticked that I read that whole OP.
And I wish Stingley had kept his hair the same as it was at the start of the season and not changed it. Not sure I’d say ticked about it but I prefer the early season hairstyle.
And I wish Stingley had kept his hair the same as it was at the start of the season and not changed it. Not sure I’d say ticked about it but I prefer the early season hairstyle.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:35 am to honeybadger07
No, not confused. Just flabbergasted at the stupidity of you and the OP.
SMMFH
SMMFH
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:59 am to PhillyFan1994
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Take off your fan hat for a second and put yourself in Stingley's shoes
why would I do that? As I said, I'm not a bleeding heart who needs to go solve all of these perceived "injustices".
His opportunity exists because of fans like myself. To the degree that you try to solve individual "injustices" like these at the detriment of the product that provides the opportunity in the first place, you are actually doing damage.
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But it is not best for the people who actually face the most risk in this affair and that is the players themselves.
They have the immense opportunity that they do because of the structure of college football and the NFL. Are you really trying to solve problems of players who by definition would have 10+ year careers in the NFL for their financial benefit? At the expense of the game? Seriously?
Posted on 4/27/20 at 10:06 am to PhillyFan1994
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 10:16 am to PhillyFan1994
Dude please STFU....College years are the best years of your life. Money isn’t everything. Enjoy yourself and live life to the fullest! DAMN
Posted on 4/27/20 at 10:18 am to Lakeboy7
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Risk of injury versus reward of fricking every hot white girl on campus.
Once again he can still frick hot white girls as a millionaire as well.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 10:20 am to LSUstephen17
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Dude please STFU....College years are the best years of your life.
If college years are so great how come almost every player who has an opportunity to leave early for the pros does so? Whether its Devin White or Greedy Williams or Eric Reid or Leonard Fournette or Jamal Adams or Ben Simmons or Jarell Martin or Naz Reid or Tremont Waters or Kwon Alexander so on and so forth. Quit selling yourself this lie that the average college athlete would rather continue to be a college athlete instead of making money.
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 10:25 am
Posted on 4/27/20 at 10:22 am to moneyg
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why would I do that? As I said, I'm not a bleeding heart who needs to go solve all of these perceived "injustices".
His opportunity exists because of fans like myself. To the degree that you try to solve individual "injustices" like these at the detriment of the product that provides the opportunity in the first place, you are actually doing damage.
Once again the amount of freshman who would take advantage of the opportunity to leave CFB early would be incredibly small anyway because like I said most of them dont even get PT their freshman year (unlike CBB where five star recruits usually start immediately and are the stars of the team). The CFB and NFL product would not seriously be affected by letting these few talented guys go become financially independent.
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 10:23 am
Posted on 4/27/20 at 10:24 am to PhillyFan1994
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I still cant help but find it hilarious that we live a capitalist society where everyone is allowed to look for the biggest profit possible but athletes are supposed to be like "Yeah frick money. I just want to risk breaking my neck every week for pure fun." That sounds like some crazy SJW stuff to me just saying.
Part of freedom/capitalism is everyone gets to make their own decisions. The NFL is a private business with a Union and they have every right in a so called free and capitalist society to set a minimum standard for employment. In this case they say 3 years after HS you are eligible to apply. There is no requirement to play college football. Stingley would be free to drop out of school and work out on his, go play in Canada perhaps, whatever he wants to do.
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 10:26 am
Posted on 4/27/20 at 11:10 am to PhillyFan1994
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I still cant help but find it hilarious that we live a capitalist society where everyone is allowed to look for the biggest profit possible but athletes are supposed to be like "Yeah frick money. I just want to risk breaking my neck every week for pure fun." That sounds like some crazy SJW stuff to me just saying...
The rules are set by the NFL, NBA etc.
Every single business in this country gets to determine job requirements for potential employees, why would professional sports be any different ?
Posted on 4/27/20 at 2:01 pm to PhillyFan1994
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Once again he can still frick hot white girls as a millionaire as well.
perhaps, but it will be a totally different type of girl with a different set of motives once he gets the money
Posted on 4/27/20 at 2:10 pm to PhillyFan1994
Stingley isn’t ready to cover someone like Michael Thomas or many other NFL receivers. He needs more time to mature.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 5:54 pm to PhillyFan1994
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Shaq can say what he wants but he still left to go the NBA early
True, but he would have been the #1 pick after his sophomore year, when he won National Player of the Year. Manning would have been the #1 pick after his junior year, but both of them came back. Why?
Posted on 6/1/20 at 6:30 pm to canyon
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So he won’t make as much in two more years?
OP is confusing
This is a terrible, terrible argument.
That's two years where he risks catastrophic injury without being paid. And beyond that, waiting two years is 2 less years of professional football he gets to play. These guys have a limited window for their careers. It isn't like an accountant starting their career 2 years late, where they can work for 40+ years. 2 years to a Pro Football player, even a HOF talent, could be 20% of their playing career. That's roughly 20% less career earnings.
All that being said, Stingley is the 1/1000 type player that could go pro as a freshman and it make sense and be a good decision. It sucks for Stingley, but it's just the way it is and the rule actually makes sense for 99.99% of guys.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 7:06 pm to PhillyFan1994
No one stopping them from doing their own thing.
What you are doing is complaining about their rights of association skills.
What you are doing is complaining about their rights of association skills.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:46 pm to Geaux23
With the notoriety he has already gained. This wouldn’t be as big a surprise as it should be. He will be mentioned in every conversation.
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