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I know it's early, but what's happened to Lange?

Posted on 3/20/16 at 3:42 pm
Posted by GA Tiger
Woodstock
Member since Aug 2005
3494 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 3:42 pm
He struggling
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 3:44 pm to
His breaking ball is nowhere near the strike zone so nobody is swinging at them anymore, and none of the batters are afraid of his fastball this year either. His fastball has been crushed by a lot of batters, especially the past few weeks.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
51293 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 3:47 pm to
It's not that they are afraid they can just sit fastball all day.
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
7574 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 4:15 pm to
It's simple he's lost the magic touch with his curveball. So opponents are just sitting on the fastball and teeing off. They know that when a curveball comes it won't be in the strike zone. Hopefully he can turn it around and I think he will.
Posted by windmill
Prairieville, La
Member since Dec 2005
7679 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 4:31 pm to
He's struggling again?
Posted by BigBrowbowski
Member since Mar 2016
29 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 7:10 pm to
Bogies has happened to most of them
This post was edited on 3/20/16 at 7:11 pm
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
5661 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 7:24 pm to
Pitching behind in to many counts. Anyone will get hit when they're predictable.
Posted by Tiger in the Sticks
Back in the Boot
Member since Jan 2007
1732 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 7:26 pm to
...seems to really struggle when pitching from stretch.
Posted by Water Mocassin
SoCal
Member since Feb 2005
2630 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 7:34 pm to
Curve is not working and I`m not convinced his arm is 100%.
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
2971 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 7:35 pm to
Dunn gets a lot of praise here, but he needs to be accountable for our pitchers underperforming this year. It's been a disappointment so far.
Posted by LuckyTiger57
Member since Dec 2015
1604 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 8:09 pm to
I don't think anyone should worry. Sometimes a good pitcher or hitter has slumps, and it messes with their individual Psychic minds.
He will snap out of it.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81771 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 8:11 pm to
I am worrying. All season he has struggled locating his fastball and knuckle curve.

He may have this problem all year. He still has good stuff when he locates it.
This post was edited on 3/20/16 at 8:12 pm
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30523 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 8:16 pm to
Sometimes pitchers who were formidable lose their confidence and ability to psyche out batters. What's happening to Lange also happened to Matty Ott in 2010. He went from being unhittable to throwing off speed fastballs that regularly sailed over outfield walls.
Posted by jpainter6174
Boss city
Member since Feb 2014
6245 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 8:21 pm to
Yips!
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81771 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 8:24 pm to
quote:

What's happening to Lange also happened to Matty Ott in 2010. He went from being unhittable to throwing off speed fastballs that regularly sailed over outfield walls.

Not remotely the same.

The scouting report on Ott was out after his freshmen year. Lay off his slider because he rarely threw it for strikes, and when he did, it hung.

His fastball was not a plus pitch and he got shelled.

Lange has electric stuff, when he locates it.
Posted by detmut
Jesuit 81 Metairie
Member since Sep 2011
2356 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 9:30 pm to
he lost weight
Posted by mlminbtr
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
681 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 8:16 am to
I said it in another thread and I still think it's true after his last outing...it's not his curve that's the problem, it's that he doesn't have last year's control of his fastball that's the issue. He is working behind in the count and, thus, hitters are laying off of the curve ball out of the zone.
Posted by rilesrick
Member since Mar 2015
6704 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 8:44 am to
Command is not there. He left the slider up w two strikes when he got a little tired. He made a few .200 hitters look like studs. That was his out pitch earlier in the game.
Posted by Koggs
Member since Jun 2015
22 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 9:36 am to
His fastball is electric and his curveball is devastating, with that being said I feel like he should develop a changeup. As a hitter you can completely eliminate the curveball and jump on fastballs early in the count. That's what the teams that have hit him hard have done. If he gets ahead of the count he will usually dominate the hitter (as he should), but hitters know to sit on that one pitch until they get 2 strikes. I've also thought the same thing with Poche. Poche has a good changeup but rarely throws it. Hitters gain confidence and have an edge when they sit on one pitch because we throw mainly FB and CB. Just my 2 cents, but what do I know Dunn gets paid a whole lot more than I do. Pick it up Tigers and lets feed off this last W!
Posted by bmistr1023
cary, north carolina
Member since Jun 2012
311 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 11:05 am to
Didn't the same thing happen to Ranaudo? He went like .305 ERA to over 7 in one year. They started pounding his fast ball when he got behind. Reminds me of what is going on with Lange although it is not nearly as bad "yet". Lots of good hitting teams are coming.
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