re: I heard on the radio this morning coach O wanted to go back to pro style

O maybe digging his own grave and if he pushes Canada out he deserves it.

That’s...not what a straw man is at all.

If the rumors were that Canada wanted one thing, orgeron wanted another, and they compromised then that means the guy who has zero offensive background doesn’t want to let his coordinator do what he does best.

That's how Dave Schultz made it sound. But what I took from it was he wanted to have a fullback in the system. On short yardage plays having a single back with no one leading the way seems to be the problem O is having. I also feel the same way, Have someone leading the back. Could also be an option for a fullback drive or a fullback there to push the quarterback on quarterback sneaks. When fournette was here, his favorite player was the fullback.

He may be a pig-headed fool.

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And O wasn't wrong.

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0 remains wrong about the offense.

When an AD had to stick his nose into game day offense procedures, five games into a head coaches career, I see all kinds of red flags waving in the wind.

There’s not one top 20 coach in America who would’ve done that or who would’ve excepted an AD doing that.

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Look at the number of players Miles put into the NFL. Even in his woeful offense, he was cranking out athletes, and this is the selling point for recruiting; getting them ready for the next level.

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I prefer for my team - LSU - to win championships more than to be a feeder organization for the NFL. I realize it's a good selling point for recruiting, but I think winning championships is better for recruiting. You win, and the best kids will want to come here.

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When an AD had to stick his nose into game day offense procedures

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Did he? Or did he just facilitate an understanding between two coaches who clashed?

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He knows more than anyone posting here.

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we have plenty coaches and NON football ignorant posters who post here whether you realize that or not. speak for yourself please. thanks.

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Uh, you made it sound like O knows nothing and Canada knows everything. And if that's the case, yeah, you go with Canada. But it's not that simple and you know.

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Okay and? That's not a strawman in the slightest. A strawman would be if I created an argument that you never made then argued against that made up position.

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They either hate him because he knows nothing yet has input or they hate him because he knows nothing and has to rely on his coordinators. You can't have it both ways.

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Yes you can though. If he has to rely on his coordinators 100% he should not have the input he was rumored to have had in the Troy game.

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You can't tear him down as a head coach when things go bad and then say it's all the coordinators when things go well. 

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Now this is the strawman you're talking about since I never made this argument. Of course he deserves credit. It's not like a phone book is our head coach and the coordinators run the show 100%.

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Do you think Canada had complete, total control those last 7 games when everything was going so well? Do you think Aranda gets total control?

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I think aranda probably does. That guy is a genius. I'm sure O had input on the offense, but in a limited sense. I don't think he's anywhere near calling plays or anything remotely like that.

My issue is not gameday, it's off-season when we have to hire a new OC and orgeron is a chameleon because he doesn't have a specific offensive identity.