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re: How long does Les stay at LSU

Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:15 pm to
He was never offered the job. How can you take a job you were never offered?
Posted by Cheers
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Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:17 pm to
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He was never offered the job. How can you take a job you were never offered?

Same question please. How do you know (for sure 100%) that he was not offered the job. Are you the Michigan AD?
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
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Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:20 pm to
Cheers, goodluck brother, I'm done.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:27 pm to
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Explain to me how you know this to be 100% accurate.


I know people. It was probably the main reason Miles did what he did. The job was either going to be his to refuse, or he was not going. They never made him "the man". Had they done that, he may have gone. He may not have. He was never going as long as he was a candidate. He was never more than a candidate.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:28 pm to
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If Les keeps doing the job he's done since being here, how long will our relationship last with him? Do you think he has a "Dream Job" that he would leave for instead of staying here?


If he didn't leave for Michigan in 2007, it's hard to imagine him leaving for anywhere else. I'd say the most likely scenario in which he leaves would have him going to Michigan if their Rich Rod experiment turns out to be a failure. Since I would guess they'll give Rodriguez at least three or four years before canning him, I think we can probably figure on Les staying at LSU for at least that long. Of course, this is on the assumption that he would even leave then, which is far from certain.

Naturally, if he continues his current LSU-career winning percentage, he'll never come remotely close to being fired and he will enjoy a high level of popularity among LSU fans, so it's entirely reasonable to think he would stay here until he's ready to retire.

On the other hand, if his winning percentage slips significantly, that could change things, both the likelihood of being fired and the level of popularity he enjoys, which would in turn possibly affect how satisfied he would be to stay here.

My prediction is that he'll probably maintain a good winning percentage, although not quite as good as it is currently, that he won't get fired, and that he'll stay until he's ready to retire, maybe in 10-15 years or so.
Posted by Gaston
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:30 pm to
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Are you the Michigan AD?


Uh, I'm gonna have to say no.

I did do some rocket science type of work today though. Does that count?

I just see that Herbie forced Miles hand to reject the job before he got to sit down and talk directly with the AD about the position. I think it would have happened, but it didn't get a chance to. I think they wanted him, and he wanted them, and it was all but signed and dotted. I just see it that way. They may have offered him 2 mil a year and he turned it down because LSU is so fricking awesome. I doubt it though.
Posted by Cheers
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Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:31 pm to
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I know people

I believe you. I'm just curious though. Who are these "people"?
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:31 pm to
I believe continued success here may actually make it easier for him to leave for Michigan. If he wins another title, it will be time to go to Michigan and do it all over again.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:34 pm to
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If a dumbass like you knew it, don't you think the opposing coaches might have as well?


Of course they did. They just couldn't do anything about it most of the time. He had great DBs who could cover 1-on-1, a great front that could get pressure even without a blitz and was just ridiculous when we DID blitz, and a very good mixture of different blitzes that were very well disguised. That's a hard combination to beat.
This post was edited on 1/8/09 at 2:35 pm
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:37 pm to
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I always felt that if he wasntleaving that he would have squashed the rumors long before that day
Okay, I can see that. I thought he had done enough, but I can see where people might differ.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87350 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:38 pm to
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I believe you. I'm just curious though. Who are these "people"?


On the Michigan side, the people would be considered "fans" I guess. Maybe boosters, but I did not pry. Talk about a mad bunch? You should have heard these guys when they found out the offer was never made. They all assumed it had been.

On the LSU side, I can't say because it would be too obvious, and this is not a message board type individual we are talking about. I suppose Miles could have lied about it, but why would he? It looks better to our side if he was offered, and he refused.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87350 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:40 pm to
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I always felt that if he wasntleaving that he would have squashed the rumors long before that day


Okay, I can see that. I thought he had done enough, but I can see where people might differ.


Well but it's not that simple. He may have actually been leaving. It never got to that point.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:41 pm to
Los Alexangeles in the house. I dated the finest ASH cheerleader when I was in high school (88-92). Good times.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87350 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:47 pm to
I had been gone 3 years. I preferred Troy-Dolls.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:51 pm to
I went to Menard, so I had to take what I could get. I had been in school with the same Catholic girls my whole life, and every worthy bridge had been burned.
Posted by Cheers
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Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:53 pm to
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Well but it's not that simple. He may have actually been leaving. It never got to that point

I think we can all agree that "something" was there. I dont know if it was an offer, a wink and a nod, something was there and then it blew up.... Cheers.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87350 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 3:10 pm to
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I went to Menard, so I had to take what I could get. I had been in school with the same Catholic girls my whole life, and every worthy bridge had been burned.


Funny cuz I married a public school girl and had her buy one of those Menard skirts to wear with one of my white button downs. When she called me "Mr" ... let's just say I enjoyed it.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87350 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 3:10 pm to
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I think we can all agree that "something" was there. I dont know if it was an offer, a wink and a nod, something was there and then it blew up


Yup.
Posted by Cussian
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Mar 2008
1731 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 3:11 pm to
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So, he took the "safe" route and ended the issue before he had time to think it through and realize that he would really have rather gone to Michigan.


I don't think he was ever heading to UM. He may have considered it, and maybe he was never really offered the job. I truly believe he saw what a great opportunity he had here with a tremendous recruiting base and salary that I know UM wouldn't match. I believe the report was leaked to Herbie intentionally so Les could do that kind of pressy. Hear me out

LM situation was tenuous at the end of that season. Many thought our 06 team underachieved with its amazing talent. Our 07 team was preseason #2 who had lost to lowly Arky and UK and seemingly didn't have a shot at MNC. Miles knew there was a lot of disappointment with fans and boosters. There was a lot of speculation that he was going back to his alma mater.

Suddenly, he bursts onto the national scene and wins the hearts of Tiger fans with this great press conference. HAVE A GREAT DAY!

I have some evidence to support this. There was an interview with Hester a couple of weeks after we beat OSU. He was asked if he was scared that LM was leaving. He said no and that LM called him and a few other players in for a meeting some time before the SECCG. LM told them that they might hear rumors that he would leave LSU but not to believe them. He was staying with the Tigers.

I believe that LM is smarter and more media saavy then people give him credit for.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34157 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 4:35 pm to
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I know right, Herbstreit just pulled that out of his arse, right?


Herbie was told by Desmond Howard that Miles would be the man. Herbie is an Ohio St man, he HATES Michigan, therefore also hated Miles, and hated the thought of him returning to rebuild Mich

Herbstreit then just pulled that out of his arse, by wanting to "be first," and also screw with Miles on gameday (same reason herbie said Miles had the most of any coach to prove in a bowl, and that GTeach was a lock to win - hate)

After it was determined that Miles would be the man, Mich asked to contact Miles. The AD then went boating without a cell phone. No one could reach him when all the s*** was hitting the fan.

Miles, the Mich AD, and others have said that Miles was NEVER Contacted. In fact, Miles' agent wasnt even contacted until the Mon. after Miles had said no. Miles' agent confirmed at that time, that Miles was staying.
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