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re: How long does Les stay at LSU
Posted on 1/8/09 at 10:32 am to King Joey
Posted on 1/8/09 at 10:32 am to King Joey
rationalize this, you can say whatever the frick you want, when old Meech comes a callin again, Les will be gone, and the fools that think he was an LSU lifer will be just that fools, the timin wasn't right last year, but when it is, he will be gone.
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Posted on 1/8/09 at 10:34 am to tubucoco
quote:
the timin wasn't right last year, but when it is, he will be gone.
Correct.
This post was edited on 1/8/09 at 10:35 am
Posted on 1/8/09 at 10:34 am to lsuougel
quote:Then why would he accept a pay cut to come back to college football?
Trust me, it doesn't matter if you have all the money in the world, you always want more.
People who think he left LSU just because it meant "more money" are just irrational (both those who think it is a compliment and an insult). Saban left LSU for exactly the reason everyone thought he would eventually leave college football; he wanted the challenge of the NFL. He wanted a chance to see how he could compare with the greatest names in coaching, and he could only do that in the NFL. He found out how he compared, and it was terribly. So, he went back to where he was enjoying his success, college football.
The only question regarding Saban's future now is whether (or how long) the taste of failure in the NFL will stick with him, and when (if ever) he starts wondering again how well he could do at the next level.
No team -- college or pro -- is going to offer Saban (or anyone else) enough money to dictate his decisions. He has had more than enough money for his ego (and that's not a bad thing) to call the shots since before he left Baton Rouge.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 10:36 am to King Joey
quote:
No team -- college or pro -- is going to offer Saban (or anyone else) enough money to dictate his decisions
Posted on 1/8/09 at 10:37 am to lsuougel
quote:So if you could raise their trust funds from $4 million to $6 million, you would make them miserable to do it?
Trust me, even if my kids didn't want to move from miami to alabama, but their trust fund grew a couple mill, I think I'd make them move to Alabama. And I believe they would understand
That's not very good decision making.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 10:42 am to Daigeaux
quote:Can they? That remains to be seen, imo.
Bama can keep the a-hole.
I'm more than a little suspicious that Saban has not completely gotten the NFL out of his system. After the bitter taste of his failure in Miami has a couple of years to fade, and as his success at Bama attracts new offers, I expect to see the "Saban to the NFL" merry-go-round in full swing.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 10:44 am to lsuougel
Miles will go to UM if the job ever opens up.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 10:45 am to Cheers
quote:Arnsparger did not leave LSU for a coaching job. He left to become the AD at Florida, recommended we promote his assistant Mike Archer instead of hiring Steve Spurrier, then went and hired Spurrier himself 3 years later.
I dont know if you consider it recent but howsabout Bill Arnsparger?
Posted on 1/8/09 at 10:51 am to King Joey
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:08 am to tubucoco
quote:How was it not right? Carr was leaving, Michigan wanted him; how much more perfect could the timing get?
the timin wasn't right last year,
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:49 am to King Joey
a lot of factors going on, that's why, he did not want to follow Carr, that's a fact, he was trying to guide his team to a NC, which barely happened when all this shite started, I do believe he considered strongly leaving, until Herbstreit came out with the story and pissed him off even more. so yeah, the timin was not right.
This post was edited on 1/8/09 at 11:50 am
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:56 am to lsuougel
I keep waiting to here that he's building a big house for his youngster's to grow up in. That would be a good sign. Still living in a condo near campus last I heard.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 12:17 pm to tubucoco
quote:
the timin wasn't right last year, but when it is, he will be gone.
This has no basis in reality whatsoever.
Miles is very aware of Michigan coaching history. Bo was there 21 yrs, Moeller 5 yrs, and Carr 12 yrs.
Miles is a 55 yr old man. Even if Mich were to llok for a new coach, Miles knew that he might be anuwhere from 61 to 68 yrs old before he got that chance.
How many powerhouse programs are hiring 60 yr olds? How many 68 yr olds get hired as HC anywhere?
Miles had to know that he was shutting this door forever!
This post was edited on 1/8/09 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 1/8/09 at 12:48 pm to tubucoco
quote:But I thought "he was gone" until Herbie broke his story?
a lot of factors going on, that's why, he did not want to follow Carr, that's a fact
quote:His team was far removed from National Championship contention when "this shite" started. It wasn't until Oklahoma beat Missouri (which some expected) later in the day, we beat Tennessee (also expected) AND Pitt beat WVU (VERY UNexpected) that we even got back into the discussion. To suggest that this was a factor in his decision is reaching badly.
he was trying to guide his team to a NC,
quote:Ah, so it's gone from "he was gone" to "he considered strongly leaving". Gotcha.
I do believe he considered strongly leaving, until Herbstreit came out with the story
Les may indeed eventually leave LSU for Michigan, but last year's events are significantly stronger evidence against it than for it.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:13 pm to King Joey
quote:the two go hand in hand, what don't you understand, considered strongly to me means "one foot in the door", but like I said that was all undone with Herbstreits annoucement.
Ah, so it's gone from "he was gone" to "he considered strongly leaving". Gotcha.
and fwiw, this was going on long before the SECCG, that is why I said "trying to guide his team to a NC" if you think this firestorm started around that time, ok
, one of your numbers, all that shite contributed somewhat in that Arky loss, they were No. 1 up until then, right?Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:15 pm to RobbBobb
quote:your not livin in reality if you believe that.
This has no basis reality whatsoever.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:25 pm to tubucoco
quote:"he was gone" means he had decided to leave, correct? If he was still "considering" it, however strongly, "he was gone" is an overstatement.
what don't you understand
quote:All the more reason to conclude that he was not going to take the job. He had obviously had the chance to consider it for weeks (if not months). He was sitting on an extension offer from LSU. If what you say is true, he was also sitting on an offer from Michigan. His team was already out of the National Title race. So why would he bother refuting a the story if he was heading to Michigan anyway? He would simply have ignored it until after the game, and then (however the game turned out) announced afterwards that he was leaving for the Michigan job. What motive would he have for doing otherwise if he was leaving LSU anyway?
this was going on long before the SECCG
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:28 pm to King Joey
quote:
All the more reason to conclude that he was not going to take the job
Huh?Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:29 pm to lsuougel
I would have to guess that he's probably here 2 more years. I figure Mich gives RRod 2 more years then comes after Miles again.
Miles caught quite a bit of unwarranted heat for going 7-5. My personal belief is we lost 4 of those games because of poor defensive coaching and an inexperienced QB. We are not entitled to 10 wins and an SEC championship every year.
Miles caught quite a bit of unwarranted heat for going 7-5. My personal belief is we lost 4 of those games because of poor defensive coaching and an inexperienced QB. We are not entitled to 10 wins and an SEC championship every year.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:34 pm to King Joey
how was is his team out oh the national title race when all this started in the first place?
didn't I just mention they were No. 1 before they played Arky, you don't hink Meechigan hounding him had anything to do with that loss?
didn't I just mention they were No. 1 before they played Arky, you don't hink Meechigan hounding him had anything to do with that loss?
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