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re: How long does Les stay at LSU
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:34 pm to Cheers
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:34 pm to Cheers
quote:I'll explain. If the "situation" of the Michigan job had suddenly sprung up the night before the SEC Championship Game, then it might be reasonable to suspect that -- had he been given enough time to consider it -- he would have taken the Michigan job, but was so rushed by the Herbstreit report that he sort of panicked and called the press conference to refute it because he didn't want to risk jeapordizing LSU's chances in the SEC Championship Game because he might want to stay there. So, he took the "safe" route and ended the issue before he had time to think it through and realize that he would really have rather gone to Michigan.
Huh?
However, since the issue of the Michigan job was around long before that weekend, it is only reasonalbe to conclude that Miles had considered it for long enough to make his decision. And if that decision had been to go to Michigan rather than stay at LSU, Herbstreit's report would have offered no motivation to refute it. There was nothing the Michigan Head Coach (which he would theoretically have decided to become) would have to gain from such an act.
Thus, the fact there was plenty of time for him to think about it is even more evidence that he in fact did think about it, and the decision he reached was to stay at LSU.
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Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:36 pm to tubucoco
quote:I wasn't talking about when the issue first came up. I was talking about when he called the press conference to refute Herbie's story. His team was out of the National Title race at that point, so that would not have been a motive for him to call the press conference.
how was is his team out oh the national title race when all this started in the first place?
What would a man who had decided to leave and take the Michigan job have to gain on that Saturday morning from calling a press conference to refute the story?
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:37 pm to King Joey
yeah, ok if you believe that BS, there is some property I have in south central LA I'd like to sell to you?
This post was edited on 1/8/09 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:38 pm to 756
quote:
One of the reasons Les was hired is he is unlike the Saban's, Petrinos, etc who jump for the dollar and new scenery.
He is a COACH, A family man and is cut from the old school mold of what a coach is
Integrity, loyalty, commitment, a man of his word
Tell Okie state that.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:39 pm to tubucoco
quote:Which BS is that? Are you suggesting that LSU was ranked #1 when Miles called the press conference to refute Herbstreit's report?
yeah, ok if you believe that BS
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:44 pm to King Joey
no, the fact that you are sayin he didn't "damn strongly" consider going to his alma mater, and called a press conference to call the Herbstreit story total BS, if you believe that, more power to you.
This post was edited on 1/8/09 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:45 pm to King Joey
quote:
Herbstreit's report would have offered no motivation to refute it
Unless he absolutely did not want any distraction to his team because he truly loved them. He then panics and makes the quick decision to stay at LSU. I believe that more than any other scenario.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:53 pm to tubucoco
quote:I didn't say he didn't consider it. What I'm saying is that the evidence suggests that, however strongly he considered it, he had not decided to go to Michigan when Herbie broke his story. Otherwise, there would be no reason to refute the story.
no, the fact that you are sayin he didn't "damn strongly" consider going to his alma mater
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:56 pm to Cheers
quote:So he loves his team so much that he'd sacrifice the career move he really wants to make just to protect their chances at winning a conference championship game, but he doesn't love them enough to stay at LSU?
Unless he absolutely did not want any distraction to his team because he truly loved them.
quote:Really? He was convinced to go to Michigan, and then an ESPN story breaks and he is so worried about the chance that it will negatively impact a team he's already decided to leave that he changes the course of his life over it?
He then panics and makes the quick decision to stay at LSU. I believe that more than any other scenario.
Sounds a bit far-fetched to me, that's all.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:57 pm to King Joey
quote:
What I'm saying is that the evidence suggests that, however strongly he considered it, he had not decided to go to Michigan when Herbie broke his story. Otherwise, there would be no reason to refute the story.
No reason except for he was in the midst of a NC run and a locker room full of kids that he thought deserved better than for it to go down like that....
Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:04 pm to King Joey
Listen King you could very well be right. I just personally got the impression in that heated speech that he was pissed off about the leak, and so he pulled the plug on it right then and there. Thats all Im saying, again you could be spot on.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:05 pm to King Joey
ok, KJ, that's your story and your stickin to it just like I'm sticking to mine, but we can agree on one thing, we both would love to see Miles bring another title to Tiger town, then he can go wherever the frick he wants to. 
This post was edited on 1/8/09 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:06 pm to Cheers
quote:There is no reason to believe that was a factor in his (or anyone else's) mind at the time the story broke or he called the press conference. No one reasonably expected LSU to be in the Championship Game at that point, even if we were going to win the SEC Championship Game.
No reason except for he was in the midst of a NC run
quote:Honorable enough to give up his career choice for the sake of those kids, but not too honorable to flat out lie about all of it?
a locker room full of kids that he thought deserved better than for it to go down like that....
Possible, of course, but still sounds far fetched to me.
Much more likely to me is that the story told every single person with the opportunity to know what actually happened, and the only story that logically fits the facts, is the true one. Les knew long, long before that championship game that he would be considered for (if not offered) the Michigan job, decided he would rather stay at LSU, and called the press conference to refute Herbie's incorrect story in order to preserve the chances of HIS team -- the one he he wanted to stay with -- to win the SEC Championship Game. Nothing outside of a report by Herbstreit -- based on unnamed "sources" -- has ever suggested otherwise (to my knowledge).
Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:08 pm to Cheers
quote:Do you think he had decided to go to Michigan before the report came out? I ask because I still don't get where people got that idea, unless it was based solely on Herbstreit's report (which would be kind of strange).
I just personally got the impression in that heated speech that he was pissed off about the leak, and so he pulled the plug on it right then and there.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:08 pm to tubucoco
quote:No arguments there!
we can agree on one thing, we both would love to see Miles bring another title to Tiger town,
Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:11 pm to King Joey
9017840987190847 hours
Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:12 pm to King Joey
quote:
Do you think he had decided to go to Michigan before the report came out? I ask because I still don't get where people got that idea
Especially considering the fact that the job was never offered.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:14 pm to King Joey
quote:
Do you think he had decided to go to Michigan before the report came out?
Obviously none of us know 100% sure either way but I always felt that if he wasntleaving that he would have squashed the rumors long before that day... Herbstreit did not sway me one way or the other.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:14 pm to AlxTgr
I know right, Herbstreit just pulled that out of his arse, right?
Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:15 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
Especially considering the fact that the job was never offered.
Explain to me how you know this to be 100% accurate.
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