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re: How is this the fault of Alleva?

Posted on 4/16/19 at 6:03 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 6:03 am to
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Anything about info on a wiretap is speculation and assumptions at this poin


No not really
Posted by Joe Mantegna
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 6:08 am to
Still being a cuck I see. At least you know who are you at this point.
Posted by rutiger
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 6:32 am to
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Anything about info on a wiretap is speculation and assumptions at this poin No not really


You mustve hanging out with dickie v when he heard the tape too.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 6:56 am to
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No not really


Explain why it isn’t then. There are no verifiable facts about the tapes. If you think there are, then enlighten us.
Posted by Slim
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 7:10 am to
My question, if the FBI did the wiretapping that is being used as evidence in a legal case, how did yahoo sports get access to the evidence? The investigation should include who in the FBI leaked this information and why hasn’t that person been fired for releasing evidence before the trial.
Posted by DontCare
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 7:21 am to
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2. Alleva did cause Wade not to meet with LSU because he INVITED THE frickING NCAA to the meeting after they were not supposed to be there.

To be fair, that’s not exactly true. The NCAA were already here investigating that nothing issue of a player’s parent getting a job at OLOL. When the story broke and the NCAA were in town, they wanted to be in the meeting. You can’t exactly tell them “no,” because they could consider that as a red flag, which could ignite a larger investigation.

Don’t let me stop you from hating Alleva, but it was purely bad timing that they were in town.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 7:24 am to
Do you even due process bro? Have another down vote
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 7:27 am to
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Explain why it isn’t then. There are no verifiable facts about the tapes. If you think there are, then enlighten us.



Do you have to physically hear it to believe? Is this part of your denial state?

You think will Wade skipped out on his team during the tournament because there is no truth to the wiretap report ??

That’s dumbfounding to me. If you think “we’ll did you hear the tape!!!??” Is a good talking point you are ignorant
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 7:28 am to
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You can’t exactly tell them “no”


You absolutely can tell the NCAA to frick off. Many programs have done it before
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 7:43 am to
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Any school would have done the same. 



Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 7:43 am to
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Because he folded like a baby back bitch.




Alleva is consistent. You gotta give him that.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 7:46 am to
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Wade was being investigated by the FBI.
*False

Wade decided not to meet with LSU.
*And the NCAA and all of LSU and NCAA legal team without his lawyer

Alleva did the right thing in suspending the coach who is under FBI investigation before the sport's biggest tournament as a precaution.
*He wasn’t under investigation.

Any school would have done the same.
*I didn’t see Kansas suspend Self

What did Alleva do to: Cuase Wade to be investigated?
*Actually yes. By suspending him he brought more attention and eyeballs to the case as opposed to allowing a legal matter run its course.

Cause Wade not to meet with LSU?
*Actually yes. By having everyone else there.

Side note, I do think Alleva should be fired for other things and sports.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 7:48 am
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 7:53 am to
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My question, if the FBI did the wiretapping that is being used as evidence in a legal case, how did yahoo sports get access to the evidence? The investigation should include who in the FBI leaked this information and why hasn’t that person been fired for releasing evidence before the trial.

The defense attorney leaked the transcript.

The judge subsequently issued an order sealing all evidence in the case. Any subsequent leaks could subject the individual leaking the evidence to being held in contempt of court.
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 8:28 am to
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Do you have to physically hear it to believe? Is this part of your denial state?


So.. let me get this straight... you do not have to hear the tape to know what it is saying... ???



Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 8:35 am to
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So.. let me get this straight... you do not have to hear the tape to know what it is saying... ???



I’ve read the transcript. And Wade’s behavior confirms exactly what you think is going on
Posted by LSU82BILL
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 8:57 am to
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And he posts a yahoo sports article that has no proof an investigation by NCAA is underway.


And I'm sure Mark Emmert was misquoted when he said that the NCAA was "monitoring the FBI investigation very closely" and "plans to begin our work as the opportunity arises". I'm sure the NCAA has completely ignored LSU with Jarell Martin and Tim Quarterman implicated in the case against Christian Dawkins. Keep believing what you want to believe no matter how many credible media sources report on this matter.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:07 am to
Alleva is the AD and responsible for everything that goes on in the athletic dept. just like Wade is the Head Basketball Coach and is responsible for what goes on under him.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 9:08 am
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:15 am to
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I’ve read the transcript


No, you haven't. You read alleged snippets from a transcript reported by someone at Yahoo.

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Do you have to physically hear it to believe? Is this part of your denial state?


Not what I was implying.

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You think will Wade skipped out on his team during the tournament because there is no truth to the wiretap report ??


Didn't say that either. By your logic, everyone who pleads the fifth is guilty of their accused crime. There are reasons for Wade to not speak with LSU and NCAA about the Yahoo article and Wade can still be innocent. I believe it's possible that what the Yahoo article alleges is true. It's also concerning that they only posted short snippets of an alleged transcript. If they have it, why not post the whole thing? If they don't have it, then why is someone just giving them these snippets? Because of that, any reasonable and objective person should have skepticism at what's being presented to them.

By your logic, the Duke Lacrosse team was guilty and Joe's actions there were on-point. One player was suspended because the police released an email that put him in a bad light, but refused to release further emails that made it reasonable to assume he was joking.

Also, by your logic, Les Miles accepted a coaching job at Michigan in 2006 because Kirk Herbstreit had "sources" that confirmed it.

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That’s dumbfounding to me. If you think “we’ll did you hear the tape!!!??” Is a good talking point you are ignorant


It's not about talking points and physically hearing the tape. It's about getting accurate information from a reliable source. I don't consider Yahoo Sports a reliable source, especially with the way they presented the information. I, and everyone else should have plenty of reason to doubt that what Yahoo alleges in that report is true.

We are all "ignorant" on what exactly was recorded on those tapes and what Wade's intentions were. This includes Alleva and F King. They should also understand the position that they put Wade in when they asked him to meet with them and the NCAA, given that he was expected to testify about the same information that they were planning on asking him about. I don't assume he's guilty because he followed his lawyer's advice, which was reasonable given the circumstances, innocent or guilty.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 9:20 am
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:18 am to
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And I'm sure Mark Emmert was misquoted when he said that the NCAA was "monitoring the FBI investigation very closely" and "plans to begin our work as the opportunity arises".


How is that relevant? Yahoo didn't quote anyone in regards to the phone transcripts. If Emmert was misquoted, he can easily clear that up himself. If yahoo misquotes hearsay from an anonymous source, how exactly is that going to be rectified? Just because the NCAA says they are monitoring an FBI investigation, of which Wade is not a target, doesn't mean that Wade is guilty.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:24 am to
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No, you haven't. You read alleged snippets from a transcript reported by someone at Yahoo.
Do you think that was made up? If not, do you think it's somehow inaccurate?
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