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re: How frustrating will it be to get top recruits, simply to lose them to a higher bidder
Posted on 1/10/22 at 4:29 pm to Revelator
Posted on 1/10/22 at 4:29 pm to Revelator
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How do you think they will act when they know they can leave at any time and go to higher bidder?
Why should this be any different than any other industry? I bet you'd leave your job if someone offered you more money.
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Posted on 1/10/22 at 4:30 pm to bsmi154
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Why should this be any different than any other industry? I bet you'd leave your job if someone offered you more money.
It’s not an industry, but rather amateur athletics?
Posted on 1/10/22 at 4:40 pm to bsmi154
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Why should this be any different than any other industry? I bet you'd leave your job if someone offered you more money.
I’m not concerned about other industries, my post is about college football.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 4:41 pm to Revelator
College football as a whole is dying off. It is regional in the southeast plus Columbus, Ohio.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 4:49 pm to Revelator
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How can a coach at a lesser school compete
They can’t but they never could.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 5:05 pm to Mike da Tigah
quote:Saban agrees with u.
I honestly think that this NIL crap and transfer portal crap combined is the absolute ruination of College Football.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 5:13 pm to Revelator
I'm no fan of the NIL deals and tPortal, but it's here. From my perspective, I think student athletes want a few other things from a prospective school.
Playing time.
Play on television weekly.
Play for a highly ranked team.
Play and train with the best staff and in the best facilities.
Play in the post season every year.
LSU can compete with this. Most SEC teams can compete in this model.
Playing time.
Play on television weekly.
Play for a highly ranked team.
Play and train with the best staff and in the best facilities.
Play in the post season every year.
LSU can compete with this. Most SEC teams can compete in this model.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 6:02 pm to kajunman
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I honestly think that this NIL crap and transfer portal crap combined is the absolute ruination of College Football.
Saban agrees with u.
No, he doesn't. He's upset because he no longer has an advantage now that it's legal to pay players.
If anything, it allows those programs who stayed under the radar, to now open the check book. That's what Saban is upset about.
Think about what would happen if a program like Vanderbilt could get its hands on all that money in Nashville.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 6:10 pm to bsmi154
The difference with other industries is the immaturity of the payee/employee. 18 year old kids with more money than they have ever seen before will not make good life decisions. We reinforce the fallacy that everything is all about money. Most pro athletes do not deal with it well; far too many end up broke and broken. I understand and support NIL for these kids. But there has to be some regulation. NIL deals should not be used to recruit, meaning no deals brokered or discussed before signing day. There should be strict collusion rules, meaning schools or business entities cannot talk to athletes to lure them away from their current schools with better NIL deals. In the wild west we are in now teams like Texas and A&M think they have it figured until everyone else's boosters start going after their young freshman who aren't starting...or telling that Alabama WR that we'll give the same NIL deal plus get him twice the number of balls thrown to him which will increase his draft stock. Believe me it will happen.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:01 pm to Revelator
There are lots of top recruits. Just wait a minute.
If a team is 5 deep in 5*s, there will be massive fallout.
If a team is 5 deep in 5*s, there will be massive fallout.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:29 pm to geauxpurple
We had too spend our boosters money on the retard.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:51 pm to Not Cooper
quote:At least not yet! K. Boutee was considering bolting LSU for another school until Gordon Mckernan paid him to stay at LSU!
Nobody in the portal has bolted a good situation for cash.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:52 pm to Revelator
The contracts are set up so that the money is paid out over time. They can’t just take the money and leave.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:26 pm to Revelator
quote:The #1 recruit in the entire nation just went to Jackson State.
How can a coach at a lesser school compete
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:29 pm to shel311
Come on…you know that’s an anomaly and even so they still can’t afford to buy a whole football team. This isn’t basketball
The little guys are severely, severely outgunned in all of this.
The little guys are severely, severely outgunned in all of this.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:43 pm to bsmi154
quote:Most talented people earning a high salary have to sign a no compete contract. All pro sports have players under contract and free agent rules. The NFL also has tampering rules. What industry allows their top talent to go to a competitor and immediately start to work against them? These guys want six and seven figure deals but those kinds of deals come with strings in the real world.
Why should this be any different than any other industry?
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:45 pm to Revelator
Isn't that the way it has always been? $$$$$$$
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:56 pm to bsmi154
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Why should this be any different than any other industry? I bet you'd leave your job if someone offered you more money.
Pro athletes cannot just sign with the highest bidder whenever they want. Initial placement is through a draft process. Future movement is limited by multi-year contracts. College football needs to maintain similar limitations on movement.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:56 pm to TigerNTampa
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But there has to be some regulation. NIL deals should not be used to recruit, meaning no deals brokered or discussed before signing day. There should be strict collusion rules, meaning schools or business entities cannot talk to athletes to lure them away from their current schools with better NIL deals.
These rules already exist, they just need to be enforced.
I would argue that it’s a little early to say whether the NCAA is going to enforce these rules or not. The kids from this recruiting cycle aren’t actually going to receive NIL money until they enroll. You’ll have a limited number who enroll now (or over the next couple of weeks) in the spring semester. Most won’t enroll until the fall.
That doesn’t mean that no violation occurs until they enroll - making offers to high school recruits is still against the rules. But the NCAA moves slowly and it’s a hell of a lot easier to prove a violation once there’s a paper trail.
Schools like Texas and (allegedly) A&M are taking a huge gamble. My guess is that they are betting the NCAA chickens out because of PR concerns. It’s a time-honored trick - do your dirty work in broad daylight to trick the public into thinking you couldn’t possibly be breaking the rules. We’ll see if it works.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:59 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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Pro athletes cannot just sign with the highest bidder whenever they want. Initial placement is through a draft process. Future movement is limited by multi-year contracts. College football needs to maintain similar limitations on movement.
Realistically that’s where this likely goes within the next 10-15 years.. collective bargaining. It’s the only way the NCAA can really escape its antitrust issues and maintain any reasonable amount of parity. I honestly think that would be better for the sport than the NCAA just burying their heads in the sand and begging the US Congress for national legislation.
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