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How Ed Orgeron outsmarted college football

Posted on 10/7/19 at 7:48 am
Posted by TigersJump
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 7:48 am
SIAP..... didn’t see it anywhere. Pretty interesting video. Just a little rundown: This reporter talks about how Ed Orgeron is sitting back letting everyone think whatever they want about him personally while he runs the LSU program the way other big time programs wish theirs were run. He specifically mentions Harbaugh and the way he runs Michigan.

He was reporting at Auburn the day we lost it the last second in Miles’ last game as coach. Said he was in the tunnel with LSU admins and Joe Alleva and they all knew at that point it was Les’ last game as coach. Said Les’ wife could not even look at him and that it was a very painful moment. This reporter well stated he was one of the many who was completely against the Orgeron hire, but is on record stating that he was very wrong.

Talks about how Orgeron saw the problem, fixed it and got out of the way. Says that Orgeron is putting so much pressure on other programs because of the way LSU was able to keep the same personnel and completely flip their offensive philosophy to run this offense flawlessly. It’s worth a watch if you’re bored and wanting a little football talk fix during Florida hate week.


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This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 8:04 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 7:54 am to
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Says that Orgeron is putting so much pressure on other programs because of the way LSU was able to keep the same personnel and completely flip their offensive philosophy to run this offense flawlessly.


What's most interesting about this change is - the Patrick Surtain, Jr. incident notwithstanding, the current staff is packed with elite recruiters. Aranda is about the only introvert that the player kind of has to be enamored of Aranda and the defensive style, if O, Pork Chop or Raymond can't get it done on personality.

So, with an elite recruiting staff (that is doing extraordinarily well outside of our traditional recruiting base - best I can remember) AND the ability to turn the offense in one year is remarkable.

Having said all of that - we've been here before - we've been 5-0. This is all window dressing until we get to the playoffs. Through 1/9/2012, we were arguably the best team of the previous 10 years.

Since then? We're an occasionally great team that remains on the outside looking in.
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 7:55 am to
I’m the conductor on the Ed O train. But probably need to chill out with stuff like outsmarted college football
Posted by TigersJump
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 7:58 am to
That’s the title and focus of the YouTube video. I’m not reading into anything. The guy is giving his opinion. He was there at Auburn the day we blew it in Miles’ last game as coach here.
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 7:59 am to
I hated the hire at the time, but am fully on-board now. I was wrong, and I’m beyond ecstatic about being wrong.. He has won me over with what he’s done on and off the field.

And I loved that video. I saw it last week, but certainly recommend those that haven’t seen it watch it.

As of 10-7-2019, O certainly has this LSU football program headed in the right direction and the future looks bright.
This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 8:05 am
Posted by cade73
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:00 am to
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’m the conductor on the Ed O train. But probably need to chill out with stuff like outsmarted college football


Maybe you should watch the video before commenting.
Posted by TigersJump
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:08 am to
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I hated the hire at the time, but am fully on-board now. I was wrong, and I’m beyond ecstatic about being wrong.. He has won me over with what he’s done on and off the field.


This
Posted by Pax Regis
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:38 am to
I love Coach O but he didn’t outsmart anyone. The best thing he did was realize he is NOT the smartest guy and went and found some folks smarter than he was and let them work.

He is also leaving enough money in the salary pool to pay those guys and keep them.

Not knocking O but let’s not suddenly act like he’s a rocket surgeon.
Posted by Swampcat
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:44 am to
Any college coach worth his salt knows recruiting is about establishing relationships. Currently a player I know is being recruited by Div 1 programs in tennis, but he actually really loves this Div 3 program but the coach barely calls him or follows up with him. He is going to loose one of his highest recruits for his program becuz he does not seem to understand and value how important relationships are to young recruits.
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:54 am to
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That’s the title and focus of the YouTube video. I’m not reading into anything. The guy is giving his opinion. He was there at Auburn the day we blew it in Miles’ last game as coach here.



I get it. Post a clickbait title and get views. Ive seen this thread posted on here a couple times. Just saying lets hold off on outsmarting all of college football. Beat up on the SEC schedule remaining and I will agree
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:55 am to
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But probably need to chill out with stuff like outsmarted college football


I would suggest they were trying to be a bit ironic there.
Posted by ScoopAndScore
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:00 am to
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The best thing he did was realize he is NOT the smartest guy

He is WAY smarter than you think, especially when it comes to football.

There is a certain type of tiger fan that just can’t accept being completely wrong about this one. Looks like you’re one of them.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:01 am to
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I love Coach O but he didn’t outsmart anyone. The best thing he did was realize he is NOT the smartest guy and went and found some folks smarter than he was and let them work.


Based on the number of people who don’t get this concept or are unable to lead in this way, I’d say he outsmarted many.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:03 am to
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Not knocking O but let’s not suddenly act like he’s a rocket surgeon.
clearly I like what's happening this year with the Brady hire, but let's pump the brakes a bit.

O's OC hires were Canada and Ensminger. Both were failures. It's only since O brought Brady on board that the ship got turned around.

Now I give O credit for that, of course. But his first two OC hires were whiffs (and yes, I realize E is still technically the OC).
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:09 am to
No I liked Coach O’s hiring. But he not a Saban style of coach which I frankly like. It’s not all about him and how smart he is.
Posted by TigersJump
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:15 am to
Dude or chick, whatever you are, this isn't my YouTube page and it isn't click bait. I hadn't seen it posted before this. I thought it was interesting. If you've seen it before, just don't click on it. No need to be a dick about it.
Posted by CGLeBleu
Member since Sep 2019
393 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:16 am to
What is a rocket surgeon?
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:21 am to
Ed’s best attributes are willingness to change and being progressive in the program, even with aggression in game situations.

We’re on the forefront of a lot of new things, some talked about in the media, and some not.
Posted by 337Tigah
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:24 am to
You are trying way too hard to discredit O. Not only did he make these hires, he took a step back and let them run their offense. If you know O's past, that was a huge change for him.
This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 9:25 am
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12933 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:32 am to
My sarcastic attempt at combining brain surgeon and rocket scientist. Some of you folks couldn’t buy a sense of humor with $1 billion.
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