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re: How does the LSU admin fire Will Wade and avoid the PR nightmare?

Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:02 am to
Posted by UpToPar
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:02 am to
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You can't have a PR are nightmare when its only a couple of fans(big picture) that think it is unjustified.


Sure you can. Most agreed it was time for Les to be let go, but they way Alleva went about it was about as incompetent as could be.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:02 am to
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Who else causes a PR nightmare besides the media?


I don't understand the question. People act. The media reports the actions. What is the cause then?
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 10:03 am
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:04 am to
LE thinks the PR hasn't been bad for LSU.
Posted by lsutigermall
Plantation Trace
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:07 am to
Oh it sure is. How do they handle firing him and then nothing comes from the allegations? That’s what is going to happen.

Even if they don’t fire him, it’s a ‘Hostile Work Environment’ for Wade and he would go and they’d have to pay him out.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
8292 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:09 am to
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Twitter and TV. Maybe 1 or 2 national & local guys are taking Wade side for every 8 or 9 going in the other direction


Nationally, you are correct.

Locally, it is a different story. And with the old saying "that all politics are local", the admin doesn't have many good options right now.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:15 am to
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again, it is still a small delusional and emotional minority that think that


Are you considering Richard Lipsey part of this “small and delusional minority?”

GTFOH lol
Posted by Fightin Okra
Member since Nov 2016
5942 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:19 am to
The PR nightmare is not either firing him or reinstating him already. Poo or get off the pot. Either he did something wrong or he didn’t.
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:19 am to
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
84502 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:25 am to
They should have low key reinstated him yesterday or Saturday.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19149 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:25 am to
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are the type of morons that keep us stuck with Alleva.
I don't like Alleva and want him gone.
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ETA: There is a world that exists where Wade did something wrong and LSU admin still fricked up royally in how they handled this. I know it's asking a lot to get you to realize that, but try anyway.
so the admin fricked up by suspending a coach that's on tape, twice, trying to buy players? And you think this is wrong?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:44 am to
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Are you considering Richard Lipsey part of this “small and delusional minority?”

GTFOH lol


He has a voice but chose to go on an old man rant about politics. Has anyone in the media reported on that at all?
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
8292 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:44 am to
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quote:
ETA: There is a world that exists where Wade did something wrong and LSU admin still fricked up royally in how they handled this. I know it's asking a lot to get you to realize that, but try anyway.


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so the admin fricked up by suspending a coach that's on tape, twice, trying to buy players? And you think this is wrong?


I don't think they screwed up suspending him. But, I do think the way they went about it has been poor.

1. Cancelling a meeting with Alleva, King and Wade and then involving the NCAA. Yes, the NCAA can request to interview Wade, but it does not mean that LSU can only meet with Wade with the NCAA present. Meet with Wade and if you don't like his answers, proceed accordingly. Jumping to a meeting with the NCAA was a poor decision IMO and one reason for so much backlash. It has the appearance of throwing him to the wolves.

2. The constant release of information against Wade. This was unnecessary and an unforced error on their part. Many people that are 100% with LSU have pointed to this error in judgment. It definitely added to the perception that they don't have a good grasp or control of the situation.

**and yes Wade's 2nd statement was poor as well.

***Wade got us in this, but LSU definitely bungled the response.
Posted by RedPop4
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Member since Jan 2005
14755 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:45 am to
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I don't understand the question. People act. The media reports the actions. What is the cause then?


No offense, this is, on its face, sensible.
However, since Woodward and Bernstein in the early 1970s trying to expose and cause the resignation of the president, "journalists" have become more activists than simply reporting actions.

You can see it in politics and culture, one can see it in sports around the world. "Journalists" are not about reporting facts, or quality of writing, especially in the 24/7 news cycle. No, "journalists" want to affect the news, create the news all while "reporting" the news.

Just look at soccer....yeah, yeah, yeah...players may be transferred (technically their contracts are transferred) ONLY in July, August, and January. The British press is awash, inundated half-hourly, by "journalists" writing stories about "X player being 'linked with' y club." Is is true? Mostly not, agents trying to get their players names out there to build interest and demand, journalists trying to unsettle teams and cause havoc, and often it works. Often they know no real facts, but publish anyway.

I WISH is was still as you describe, so simple, so straightforward. But no, Pat Forde WANTS to be somebody. He wants to brag to his friends how he upset the applecart of LSU basketball.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285001 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:47 am to
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LE thinks the PR hasn't been bad for LSU.



Feel free to show me

You starting 20 threads a day crying about everything doesn’t move the needle that’s for sure
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19149 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:47 am to
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frick you. Seriously.
quality argument
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You have been having the admins back during this entire shite show. How fricking dare you.
well I do think the admin was correct in suspending Wade
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That entire community [Penn State] turned their back on child rape
correct, and that's why I wanted Penn State to get crushed with penalties, and am merely bringing up the fact that some people said "don't punish, it'll only hurt the kids who had nothing to do with the problem." Again, if that's the standard, virtually no pushishment could ever be handed out, anywhere, because the kids on the team would get hurt.
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you fricking neanderthal
again, quality argument
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10340 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:48 am to
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Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
107416 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:54 am to
Oh, I'm not trying to suggest the media doesn't attempt (and in a lot of cases succeed) in shaping perception. I'm just saying, in this instance, there are other factors at work and that might possibly be a bigger factor in shaping public relations perception. It's silly to think it is solely on the media.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132972 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 11:01 am to
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He has a voice but chose to go on an old man rant about politics.



Geez, you are so disingenuous. His article was cited with example after example of misfeasance by our admin not related to athletics. He even stated in the article that it is a shame that these LSU admin missteps are only brought to light when there is a controversy in the athletic department. Meaning he wished that the academic administrative missteps would receive as much attention as the athletic administrative missteps.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 11:07 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132972 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 11:02 am to
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You starting 20 threads a day crying about everything doesn’t move the needle that’s for sure



I guess my threads have have had an impact. 2 is being inflated to 20.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 11:03 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132972 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 11:06 am to
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atltiger6487


Yeah, but you are conflating child pedo rape with FBI wire taps about an "offer" that you know nothing about.

In terms of everyday business out of the NCAA purview, offers are quite normal and moral in business everyday all day.

Pedo stuff? Not so much.

So you conflating the two is very wrong.
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