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Posted on 11/23/23 at 8:33 am to 756
Our defense was not good last year, but you are right about it being worse this year. There are lots of reasons, but the very worst thing about the defensive situation is that they have gotten worse as the season has gone on. This is squarely on the coaching staff.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 8:41 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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Game after game after game it is obvious the House can't scheme.
What if he had to dummy it down because they can’t run the scheme due to lack of experience?
Posted on 11/23/23 at 8:46 am to 756
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How could BK and House not see this coming?
I’m fairness. They could not see the leader of the secondary missing the season with a brain tumor.
They could not see the likely starter at CB breaking his leg preseason
Wingo getting hurt and missing half the season wasn’t predicted
It’s unfortunate that Smith has been a shell of himself
Depth was always going to be a problem as BK continues to rebound the roster.
The DL coach was lost right before the season due to illness
House is not a good DC and that isn’t helping the above
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 9:20 am
Posted on 11/23/23 at 8:48 am to lsuson
quote:We'd be undefeated if we had a mediocre defense.
mediocre product
Posted on 11/23/23 at 8:55 am to LsuTool
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Portal DBs hitting Vs portal DBs busting is eye opening 2022 Foucha Brooks Garner Bernard-Converse Vs 2023 Harris Jk Johnson Ches
I wouldn’t call Zy a bust. He was turning into a quality SEC corner before re injury.
Same with Johnson. He isn’t a bust he was injured.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 8:57 am
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:11 am to lsuson
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hence a mediocre product
Mediocre would be a massive improvement. I think you meant the worst product in LSU’s history.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:14 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
I was more referring to the production we got out of them. They offered us 0 production. Zy was serviceable at best for a couple games.
Also when you factor in we lost brooks in 2023 and Speights has been a total 0 at MLB.
It’s just a black hole of nothingness.
Also when you factor in we lost brooks in 2023 and Speights has been a total 0 at MLB.
It’s just a black hole of nothingness.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:14 am to wryder1
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wryder1
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:24 am to 756
Defenders who should be playing at Cajun Field
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:34 am to mwade91383
Agree with your list. Too much blame has been put on our secondary. We have been poor at many things as you describe. The Dline getting pushed around on run plays, and not getting in the backfield on pass plays has been huge. Poor tackling has killed us. The LBers constantly in the wrong gaps. Failing to set the edge has hurt us.
Perfect storm is a good description.
Perfect storm is a good description.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:38 am to 756
Difficult but necessary questions OP.
My take:
- To try and counter DT QBs House wants to play more zone. But the schemes are more complex and prone to coverage busts.
- Injuries, e.g., Brooks, Wingo
- Substandard talent especially in the secondary
- Poor fundamentals and lack of effort. This is disheartening.
- Expecting Perk to compensate for the poor DL play and inexperience in the secondary. This takes our one difference maker and self-neutralizes him.
It's easy to blame it all on House. But IMO, this is 100% on CBK. When you hire a HC with 30+ years of HC'ing experience, you don't expect these types of rookie mistakes.
My take:
- To try and counter DT QBs House wants to play more zone. But the schemes are more complex and prone to coverage busts.
- Injuries, e.g., Brooks, Wingo
- Substandard talent especially in the secondary
- Poor fundamentals and lack of effort. This is disheartening.
- Expecting Perk to compensate for the poor DL play and inexperience in the secondary. This takes our one difference maker and self-neutralizes him.
It's easy to blame it all on House. But IMO, this is 100% on CBK. When you hire a HC with 30+ years of HC'ing experience, you don't expect these types of rookie mistakes.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 10:08 am to wryder1
Posted on 11/23/23 at 12:17 pm to TIGRLEE
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Nah not wrong at all
When you get pushed around, get no pressure and you can’t tackle that’s a personnel problem
This isn’t jr high football
This doesn't make any sense and most definitely doesn't prove your point
Posted on 11/23/23 at 2:38 pm to OJsLifeCoach
Makes perfect sense.
They don’t get pressure on the qb
They can’t tackle in space
They get pushed off the Los
Which tells me the other guy is better.
Sure technique plays a role but being the bigger “dawg” wins the day
Sorry that doesn’t make any sense to you.
Pretty elementary football concepts.
They don’t get pressure on the qb
They can’t tackle in space
They get pushed off the Los
Which tells me the other guy is better.
Sure technique plays a role but being the bigger “dawg” wins the day
Sorry that doesn’t make any sense to you.
Pretty elementary football concepts.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 11/23/23 at 2:44 pm to 756
Simply put, they forces out the only defensive coach worth a damn in both coach and recruiting for a DC that hates recruiting and other coaches that are just bad.
House is responsible for this mess in every way.
House is responsible for this mess in every way.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 2:52 pm to LsuTool
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2022
Foucha
Brooks
Garner
Bernard-Converse
Proven, experienced and top tier with 3 of these and the other was a CB with significant physical attributes (Garner)
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Vs
2023
Harris
Jk Johnson
Chestnut
Zy
Harris was a troublemaker and somehow was magically expected to change?
Johnson was injured, yes, but so was his tOSU teammate last year.
Chestnut was always undersized and overrated. Anyone could see his limitations.
Alexander is not Garner. Not near the size or athletic ability and played in a much worse level of competition. Alexander has been awful all season against FBS competition outside of one half versus an option offense in Army. He is not even 3rd strung SEC level talent. Kid tries hard, but simply has no business at this level.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 11/23/23 at 2:53 pm to Geauxgurt
We are slow. Can't tackle. Take bad angles and don't play with fire. There's a lot to fix. Hopefully this freshman class plus this seasons freshmen/team will improve.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 2:58 pm to logansrun
Exactly.. Don’t have the dogs
I’ve been on this board for a long time……..
There’s always been a segment of posters who refuse to blame players.
It’s ALWAYS the coaches fault. .. unless of course it’s a qb or kicker. … or DJ welter.
Everybody else it’s the coach.
Hell Brian Kelly said himself if you’ve watched any postgame and or pregame talks to his team that
They’ve been coached and are prepared …..it’s time for them to execute…. Be “elite” “good isn’t good enough”
We don’t have the guys to dominate like we have in the past.
It’s ok to admit it .
I’ve been on this board for a long time……..
There’s always been a segment of posters who refuse to blame players.
It’s ALWAYS the coaches fault. .. unless of course it’s a qb or kicker. … or DJ welter.
Everybody else it’s the coach.
Hell Brian Kelly said himself if you’ve watched any postgame and or pregame talks to his team that
They’ve been coached and are prepared …..it’s time for them to execute…. Be “elite” “good isn’t good enough”
We don’t have the guys to dominate like we have in the past.
It’s ok to admit it .
Posted on 11/23/23 at 3:00 pm to Geauxgurt
Terrified to pressure the QB to protect DBs, when they need to pressure the QB to protect the DBs.
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