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re: Hopefully Dave Aranda was watching Sunday Night Football
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:12 am to RagingCajun3195
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:12 am to RagingCajun3195
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Something tells me Aranda is watching football right now, but it’s probably film. That man is a machine.
The narrative now coming from posters who get paid to post by LSU Ahtletics to deflect criticism of the offense is that Aranda is probably watching TV and Orgeron could do better.
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:19 am to KC Tiger
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What bothers me, and seems hypocritical, is that the bar used to measure Aranda's quality as a coach is not the same one used to measure Orgeron's quality as a coach (or vise versa).
If the defense performed to the level of the offense we would've won 4 games this season.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:20 am to Topwater Trout
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His philosophy of not blitzing (when we have a great secondary) kills me.
Go look at who our top 5 our leaders in sacks were
Not tell me who our top 4 CBS were against A&M.
Sorry but if you spread a team out it’s hard to bring extra blitzers and if you don’t trust most of your CBS to cover in man.
Go watch theblast play Vs A&M
We actually get good penetration with 3, but lose containment. Still Monds is throwing on the run and forces a ball to a guy being covered by our best CB.l, and he still needs to make an insane 1 handed catch as like a 6’ 6” WR to make the play.
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 11:22 am
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:23 am to Topwater Trout
“ The defense need it one stop”
The offense neededt one first down in our last series in regulation and one touchdown from first and goal at the A&M seven.
What we got was six runs, as I recall 4 by Joe, with no first down and no touchdown. Blaming a D when the OT concept is all bout putting the O in scoring position to start with is silly.
The offense neededt one first down in our last series in regulation and one touchdown from first and goal at the A&M seven.
What we got was six runs, as I recall 4 by Joe, with no first down and no touchdown. Blaming a D when the OT concept is all bout putting the O in scoring position to start with is silly.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:33 am to HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
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What’s his defensive ranks in total D, pass D, and rush D respectively each year since being hire. Let me know what kind of machine he is.
Yardage is a meaningless stat without context, but even then:
Year-----Total D ------ Pass D ----- Rush D
2016------5th------------14th----------10th
2017------12th-----------21st----------24th
2018------29th-----------44th----------38th
Yards per attempt is a better metric for each of those categories anyway. Yards per passing attempt have been 19th, 25th, and 11th since 2016. Yards per rushing attempt have been 8th, 40th, and 39th. Yards per play have been 10th, 28th, and 22nd.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:55 am to Tiger Tracker
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2018 (after 7OTs)
Total yards - 89
Total points - 50
Points/game - 45
Wait, are you saying that Slinger's O is worse than Canada's offense on both accounts even when he "set all them records"?
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Yardage is a meaningless stat without context, but even then: Year-----Total D ------ Pass D ----- Rush D 2016------5th------------14th----------10th 2017------12th-----------21st----------24th 2018------29th-----------44th----------38th
But that ball control offense was supposed to....
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 11:57 am
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:55 am to SammyTiger
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We went up by 5 with 11:14 in the 4th. That’s a lot more than 1 stop.
ND & A&M were the games I was talking about
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So again, you’re “all we needed was 1 stop”
Is fricking bullshite Because our offense can’t score point or close out games.
6-7 teams held A&M to less points in regulation than we did
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:58 am to Lonnie4LSU
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The offense neededt one first down in our last series in regulation
I already stated this...it still doesn't mean we don't win the game if our defense does their job and even worse allow a team to drive 80+ yards to send the game to OT on a 4th and 19. Sorry I wish yall held our defense and highest paid coordinator to a higher standard.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 12:00 pm to SammyTiger
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Sorry but if you spread a team out it’s hard to bring extra blitzers
the fact that Aranda doesn't blitz much isn't based on just the A&M game
Posted on 12/17/18 at 12:02 pm to Topwater Trout
Well Notre Dame wasn’t one of our last 3 losses AND like I pointed out to you,
We needed more than 1 stop vs A&M and that’s clear because we stopped them and the offense went 3 and out.
So again, when you say “wenonly needed one stop to beat A&M”
You’re flat out fricking wrong.
And all the BS people say about the OL injuries causing the offense, no one seems to give the defense the benefit of the doubt when they’re down starters at all levels, especially the secondary.
We needed more than 1 stop vs A&M and that’s clear because we stopped them and the offense went 3 and out.
So again, when you say “wenonly needed one stop to beat A&M”
You’re flat out fricking wrong.
And all the BS people say about the OL injuries causing the offense, no one seems to give the defense the benefit of the doubt when they’re down starters at all levels, especially the secondary.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 12:02 pm to Goldrush25
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If the defense performed to the level of the offense we would've won 4 games this season.
if the defense performed to the level we paid the DC we would've won 11 games this year
Posted on 12/17/18 at 12:03 pm to Topwater Trout
I think it's funny how Aranda's contract is brought up every time we have these discussions.
Aranda was given that contract because the head football coach was scared to death of losing him. They thought it was so important to retain him that they broke salary scale for defensive coordinators in the process. He didn't come to LSU brass asking for the contract.
If the head football coach didn't think he was the best man for the job then he should've let him go to A&M.
Aranda was given that contract because the head football coach was scared to death of losing him. They thought it was so important to retain him that they broke salary scale for defensive coordinators in the process. He didn't come to LSU brass asking for the contract.
If the head football coach didn't think he was the best man for the job then he should've let him go to A&M.
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 12/17/18 at 12:11 pm to Goldrush25
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If the head football coach didn't think he was the best man for the job then he should've let him go to A&M.
well im surprised yall aren't using this to thrash O...he paid a guy 2.5 mil and he under performed
Posted on 12/17/18 at 12:13 pm to Topwater Trout
Our leaders in sacks are
1. safety Grant Delpit
2. OLB Michael Divinity
3. Linebacker Devin White and DL Glen Logan
18.5/29 sacks came from none DL players and our only 2.5 of those came from the BOLB position.
Realistically we got konpass rush from our DL and couldn’t compensate for it by blitzing.
Despite blitzing pretty frequently.
But since Aranda doesn’t go for broke and use Jailhouse blitzes every passing down morons like you will bitch about not blitzing.
Even though we almost always send White on passing down.
The issue wasn’t blitzing it was not having an elite pass rusher.
And there isn’t a team out there that completely makes up for that with blitzing.
Alabama, Clemson, Miss Astarte, Florida are all generating sacks with their DL.
1. safety Grant Delpit
2. OLB Michael Divinity
3. Linebacker Devin White and DL Glen Logan
18.5/29 sacks came from none DL players and our only 2.5 of those came from the BOLB position.
Realistically we got konpass rush from our DL and couldn’t compensate for it by blitzing.
Despite blitzing pretty frequently.
But since Aranda doesn’t go for broke and use Jailhouse blitzes every passing down morons like you will bitch about not blitzing.
Even though we almost always send White on passing down.
The issue wasn’t blitzing it was not having an elite pass rusher.
And there isn’t a team out there that completely makes up for that with blitzing.
Alabama, Clemson, Miss Astarte, Florida are all generating sacks with their DL.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 12:13 pm to Topwater Trout
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if the defense performed to the level we paid the DC we would've won 11 games this year
Ensminger and O combined make about 4.3 million a year. Given that we can safely assume Aranda is solely in charge of the defense, do you think the offensive production this year was worth 4.3 million?
Posted on 12/17/18 at 12:15 pm to Topwater Trout
I'm looking at it from a different perspective.
You think an increase in his salary means we should've expected an increase in performance, which is unrealistic IMO. Yet you continue to use the contract as some sort of standard to which he should be held. It's not Aranda's fault that they broke the salary scale for coordinators to keep him.
I never expected that. He was given that money because a replacement level candidate would've likely spelled disaster for the program, if not this season then next season. It was a move of desperation.
I actually agree that on the open market Aranda isn't worth $2.5m but that's irrelevant now because it was given to him. No DC in the country can live up to that number.
You think an increase in his salary means we should've expected an increase in performance, which is unrealistic IMO. Yet you continue to use the contract as some sort of standard to which he should be held. It's not Aranda's fault that they broke the salary scale for coordinators to keep him.
I never expected that. He was given that money because a replacement level candidate would've likely spelled disaster for the program, if not this season then next season. It was a move of desperation.
I actually agree that on the open market Aranda isn't worth $2.5m but that's irrelevant now because it was given to him. No DC in the country can live up to that number.
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 12/17/18 at 12:16 pm to Topwater Trout
If this offense is competent we win 11 games.
24 points Vs A$m
19 vs Florida and closed the game with 2 picks
24 points Vs A$m
19 vs Florida and closed the game with 2 picks
Posted on 12/17/18 at 12:17 pm to SammyTiger
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Well Notre Dame wasn’t one of our last 3 losses AND like I pointed out to you,
3 out of 4 losses was what i said unless i mispoke in this case
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We needed more than 1 stop vs A&M and that’s clear because we stopped them and the offense went 3 and out.
when we punt the ball inside the 20 with 2 minutes left the defense needs one stop to win the game
If you can't admit the defense choked you're flat out wrong...tell me why we allowed them to make our defense look stupid in the first half?
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And all the BS people say about the OL injuries causing the offense
O haters are the ones that said injuries don't matter
Posted on 12/17/18 at 12:19 pm to TrevRollings29
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Ensminger and O combined make about 4.3 million a year. Given that we can safely assume Aranda is solely in charge of the defense, do you think the offensive production this year was worth 4.3 million?
Please be careful when expressing critique of the coaching staff.
We have the best coaches on the planet! Geaux Tigers!
Posted on 12/17/18 at 12:20 pm to SammyTiger
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If this offense is competent we win 11 games.
i think the offense sucked and still think if the defense was as good as 2 years ago we win 11 games.
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