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re: Gymnastics National Semifinal: LSU survives and advances to finals saturday

Posted on 4/16/26 at 11:23 pm to
Posted by BrianKellysbuyout
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 11:23 pm to
UCLA was probably just going to be playing for 4th anyway. Minnesota will at least be thrilled jist to be there.
Posted by LauraGB
Stavanger, Norway
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 11:45 pm to
Well moving on…do we know which apparatus we start on for Saturday?
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 12:59 am to
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This is so not fair. There needs to be a change. Meanwhile, Faith Torrez looks like she will win the all around and she has never competed it the whole entire year. In my opinion, you should be required to compete in it during the regular season a few times to be eligible to compete it at nationals.


Yes, there should be a requirement of having competed AA a minimum number of times. But that's not what really unfair. What's unfair is having separate sessions scored against each other for the AA. They really need a separate AA session with the top maybe 8-12 girls. Then they'd actually be scored against each other. Some of the bias is that the judge is thinking, x routine that I just saw was better than anything else I've seen today. But they really don't remember the previous session that well.

Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:04 am to
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With OU, I feel like they land more with their feet far apart which is easier to stick but should be deducted for it, but they aren’t. They do this every year and I’m surprised the other teams don’t try it. Guess they would get deducted for it though cause not OU.


I think part of it is the girls are a different style of gymnast. Although they are all good at most everything, OU has bars/beam queens and LSU has powerhouses, except for Konnor and Kailin. Powerhouses are great vaulters and tumblers. But control is always a problem for them. Beam requires complete control. Bars is all about swing. You need strength, but not the same power. I wonder if you measured the height of the 2 schools tumbling/vaults if LSU flies higher? I bet they do. Power girls always struggle a bit with beam and bars. Look at Chiles...look at Biles. They are both power.
Posted by LCLa
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 6:45 am to
Proximity to an airport hub, centrally located for usual contenders.

Where would the attendance not suck?
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 6:51 am to
So lsu vs ok again?
Posted by TigerBogue
Red State, USA
Member since May 2006
1068 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 8:22 am to
I was worried about being in that session. If we can’t finish ranked #1, it’s better to be 4 and be in the night session.
Posted by TigerBogue
Red State, USA
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 8:28 am to
We were in the night session last year, as #1 seed.
Posted by TigerFan112
Member since Feb 2017
960 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:01 am to
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So lsu vs ok again?


It’s LSU vs OU vs Florida. But if we have a repeat of yesterday, Minn could beat us as well. We have to be at the absolute top of our game to win.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:02 am to
Didn't get to watch it until late last night. Whew that meet had me stressed out.

On a bad note we had two bad sessions in bars and beam. On a good note, we were good enough to advance with two bad sessions.

We can beat OU and Florida, but we just can't have any bad sessions, much less two.

Caitlin, Amari, and Konnor kind of saved us last night. We'd be out if it wasn't for them being on all night.

When Kaliya balance checked on her beam I got a really bad feeling in my stomach. But we pulled it out on floor.

I don't know what Roethlisberger, the announcer, was talking about when it was coming down to the last few routines. Georgia's final vaulter had a pretty bad vault, stepping backwards twice and almost falling down, it was a minimum .2-.3 deductions and that was if everything else was perfect. So i was expecting something in the high 9.6's or low 9.7's. The score came in as a 9.6 something and Roethlisberger was like "I DONT KNOW THESE JUDGES MUST HAVE SAW SOMETHING THAT I DIDN"T BECAUSE THAT SCORE IS LOW." Wtf are you talking about dude, it was one of the worst vaults of the night.

On we go LFG girls
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:05 am to
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This is so not fair. There needs to be a change. Meanwhile, Faith Torrez looks like she will win the all around and she has never competed it the whole entire year. In my opinion, you should be required to compete in it during the regular season a few times to be eligible to compete it at nationals. I think they did the same thing with Trautman a few years ago. It’s like I can’t even take these gym competitions seriously because of all of the bias.


Itis definitely some BS. Judging varies way too much to let it ride on one night and especially given they are at separate times. Evening meet was definitely overscored more.

I'm seriously to the point to where I hate OU gymnastics an their wide arse squat landings more than I hate Alabama football.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
34227 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:09 am to
But OU has been in the 198s and is in Ft Worth and always get the benefit of the doubt

How can anyone beat that?
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:40 am to
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But OU has been in the 198s and is in Ft Worth and always get the benefit of the doubt

How can anyone beat that?


I have a sliver of hope. We have to be perfect. I think if we're perfect we can beat them and also just pray that the judges even across the board.

And I hate it but I really wish Jay would start teaching wider landings to get more sticks. The judges clearly don't punish OU for them one bit. The benefit of a stuck landing with your feet together on the mat has virtually disappeared so why even try for that. It's like the 3 pass routine on floor almost being extinct. Why do three passes when you are just opening yourself up for more deductions when you can hit all your marks in two passes?

I've said it for most of the year that a final four would be a very solid accomplishment for this team, I think next year should probably have a slightly better team that has a better shot at the title.

They've got a lot to be proud of, it's been a good year, but they are certainly going to have to be better than last night if they want a shot at the title.
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:49 am to
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Roethlisberger was like "I DONT KNOW THESE JUDGES MUST HAVE SAW SOMETHING THAT I DIDN"T BECAUSE THAT SCORE IS LOW." Wtf are you talking about dude, it was one of the worst vaults of the night.


It was close to the worst score of the night - 24th of 28 competitors.

The 4 middle scores of 6 judges were the ones averaged for the score.

There were four 9.75s, one 9.80 and one 9.85. The 9.85 and one 9.75 were dropped. The average was 9.7625.

Having 6 judges really helps eliminate most of the bias in scoring. I think the surprise was that she was the final/anchor spot for UGA. But she messed up and was scored consistently by 4 of 6 judges.

Link to scoring

Scroll down to the Lineups header and select the team. You will see all scores. Then select the individual gymnast name and you will see the scores from all 6 judges.
This post was edited on 4/17/26 at 11:40 am
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
8709 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:50 am to
We had the lowest of the 4 scores so we will probably start on floor or beam
Posted by kellyval99
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2003
3548 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:00 am to
What I saw, we start on floor and end on beam. I HATE that rotation but we won in 2024 with that.

They just better be FAIR in judging...none of this save the highest scores for the last competitors bullshite that happened yesterday. Kiera Wells' vault was NOT better than Chio or Lincoln...but she scored higher. Jordan Chiles got the score she got because of her name because she totally slid on her first landing but did not get counted off...Chio should have won floor also.
Posted by LSU Tiger Eyes
Key Biscayne, FL
Member since Sep 2003
3910 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:19 am to
Just glimpsed at a couple of clips of the sessions and noticed the stands are mostly empty. Is this normal?
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:25 am to
Who would downvote this!!!!!!!!
Always amazing how deranged some people can be!
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:35 am to
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It was the close to worst score of the night - 24th of 28 competitors.



Right. I normally like Roethlisberger and he seems to like LSU a good bit usually and maybe he was just playing up the drama but it was just odd.

Thanks for the link, that's pretty handy. 6 judges is such a better system. Wish normal meets could at least get 3-4. Two judges can be so inconsistent.

OU's leadoff winning the vault title and getting three 10's
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109287 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 11:56 am to
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I don't know what Roethlisberger, the announcer, was talking about when it was coming down to the last few routines. Georgia's final vaulter had a pretty bad vault, stepping backwards twice and almost falling down, it was a minimum .2-.3 deductions and that was if everything else was perfect. So i was expecting something in the high 9.6's or low 9.7's. The score came in as a 9.6 something and Roethlisberger was like "I DONT KNOW THESE JUDGES MUST HAVE SAW SOMETHING THAT I DIDN"T BECAUSE THAT SCORE IS LOW." Wtf are you talking about dude, it was one of the worst vaults of the night.


He was letting his bias affect his announcing. He was clearly cheering for Georgia to make top 2.
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