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re: Greg Brooks Suing LSU
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:38 pm to BlueWaffleHouse
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:38 pm to BlueWaffleHouse
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*Just from his bio, the surgeon that did Greg’s procedure seemed like he’s main focus was on spine more than brain, which is a big red flag for me.
Agree with this. I was very surprised that he didn't have the surgery at MD Anderson or another highly regarded cancer center with neurosurgeons exclusively specializing in brain tumors.
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Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:38 pm to LSBoosie
quote:His illness was dizziness and nausea.
In the legal filing, Brooks accuses the coaching staff of encouraging him to practice and play while ill
He is practicing football outside in August in South Louisiana. I, along with pretty much everyone else would think it would be 50 different things causing that before we got to brain tumor. Heat, dehydration, vertigo, contact injury, etc.
quote:I mean if you aren’t practicing you aren’t playing. Pretty common among all levels in all sports
by threatening his starting position
quote:These are sports athletes trainers, not brain surgeons. They treat those same symptoms all the time for non brain tumor reason. I don’t believe it’s reasonable to expect athletic trainers to schedule an MRI for a player who after 2 weeks is still having headaches during fall camp.
and he levies claims against team trainers for not appropriately diagnosing his condition and refusing, for weeks, to recommend him to a neurological specialist.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:50 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
The lawsuit is in the article.
LINK
They claimed that on August 5th when Greg passed out, vomited, was dizzy and had headaches, those were all "neurological" symptoms. I'm not a doctor, but I'm pretty sure those can be symptoms of a lot of things like a virus or some kind of sinus issue. They call them "neurological" throughout the petition which I scanned. I don't think the claims against LSU go anywhere. They shouldn't pay.
It seems the allegations in this suit against the hospital are negligent hiring of the doctor who performed the surgery, so I suspect there is a separate malpractice proceeding still ongoing against the doctor before the Medical Review Panel, the hospital and possibly the LSU docs who were allegedly family doctors. They had to file the negligence suit within one year, so I suspect that's why it's filed and medical malpractice isn't directly alleged here. Basically, they say the surgeon and the LSU docs were not qualified. Can't tell from this petition whether any malpractice occurred during the surgery. Brain surgery certainly comes with risks and you don't have to surgically trained to know that.
If you don't practice, you don't usually play unless they're resting someone for a game for some reason, so that's a red herring to me.
My 2 cents.
LINK
They claimed that on August 5th when Greg passed out, vomited, was dizzy and had headaches, those were all "neurological" symptoms. I'm not a doctor, but I'm pretty sure those can be symptoms of a lot of things like a virus or some kind of sinus issue. They call them "neurological" throughout the petition which I scanned. I don't think the claims against LSU go anywhere. They shouldn't pay.
It seems the allegations in this suit against the hospital are negligent hiring of the doctor who performed the surgery, so I suspect there is a separate malpractice proceeding still ongoing against the doctor before the Medical Review Panel, the hospital and possibly the LSU docs who were allegedly family doctors. They had to file the negligence suit within one year, so I suspect that's why it's filed and medical malpractice isn't directly alleged here. Basically, they say the surgeon and the LSU docs were not qualified. Can't tell from this petition whether any malpractice occurred during the surgery. Brain surgery certainly comes with risks and you don't have to surgically trained to know that.
If you don't practice, you don't usually play unless they're resting someone for a game for some reason, so that's a red herring to me.
My 2 cents.
This post was edited on 10/11/24 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:51 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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I honestly don’t think there is any negligence here .
Do you know the facts?
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Wonder what the MRP ruled.
You have to actually be negligent for them to rule against you
Doubt that is the case here
Posted on 10/11/24 at 5:05 pm to DBeaux225
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I honestly don’t think there is any negligence here .
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Do you know the facts?
we know for certain what has been reported in the lawsuit and the timeline given so far.
the legal definition of Negligence
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Negligence is the failure to behave with the level of care that a reasonable person would have exercised under the same circumstances.
he was treated for his symptoms. in roughly the same basic order that any reasonable person would have for an otherwise healthy 21 year old college athlete.
Heat Related issues
Concussion Protocol
Vertigo
and we don't know what other things they may have checked for (Diabetes, Covid, Flu, etc.) as well.
Brain Tumor or other neurological issues is never at the top of the list with is symptoms.
LSU and their medical staff testing and treating for multiple other much more common things that could cause the same issues is not negligence.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 5:21 pm to LSU1SLU
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so many people dont understand the difference between and unforunate situation, and one where someone did everything he could to not diagnose something serious. This scenario happened to my mom literally last week.
I’m sure you are jaded by the unfortunate situation relative to your mom.
But your comments don’t make sense. Doctors have no incentive to do what you suggest.
If you have a serious condition, it should be the norm for all the more likely causes be considered first...especially when we are talking about a MRI or CAT scan that are expensive and availability is limited. .
Posted on 10/11/24 at 5:23 pm to Nutriaitch
I brought this up to a group chat earlier, but there's a very recent example of gross negligence.
Florida surgeon mistakenly removes patient's liver instead of spleen, causing him to die, widow says
This would be a clear cut case of negligence.
Florida surgeon mistakenly removes patient's liver instead of spleen, causing him to die, widow says
This would be a clear cut case of negligence.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 5:27 pm to LSU1SLU
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you spend far too much time on this board if you actually know that. Like far too much
Took me 5 seconds chief. This internet stuff isn't hard
Posted on 10/11/24 at 5:28 pm to LSU1SLU
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And yea I can imagine having a degree and working in construction sales somehow being a bad thing lmfao
It isn't a bad thing. It means you don't know as much about medicine as you think you do
Posted on 10/11/24 at 5:30 pm to GeorgeReymond
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Our Lady of the Lake medical center
He definitely had brain damage.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 5:34 pm to Red Stick Tigress
I used to practice med mal defense. Panels take forever and are routinely kicked down the road. Seeing as the suit was just filed this past August, they probably went ahead and sued LSU (so the claim wouldn’t prescribe/expire) and will add the hospital/surgeon to the suit once the panel renders an opinion.
Just looking at the (poorly drafted) petition, they allege that the team trainer was basically making diagnoses and this was being signed off on by the team doctor (who hadn’t actually seen Greg him/herself). That looks a bit choppy.
However, I imagine that surgery had numerous potential complications, including brain damage/paralysis, that were laid out before Greg before it was actually performed.
Either way, it’s heartbreaking. His life will never be the same.
Just looking at the (poorly drafted) petition, they allege that the team trainer was basically making diagnoses and this was being signed off on by the team doctor (who hadn’t actually seen Greg him/herself). That looks a bit choppy.
However, I imagine that surgery had numerous potential complications, including brain damage/paralysis, that were laid out before Greg before it was actually performed.
Either way, it’s heartbreaking. His life will never be the same.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 5:37 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
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Florida surgeon mistakenly removes patient's liver instead of spleen, causing him to die, widow says This would be a clear cut case of negligence.
that one would be malpractice.
negligence would be knowing he needed a procedure and not providing it at all (or at least not informing him he needed it).
Posted on 10/11/24 at 5:40 pm to BayouTiger33
Delly dropping this the day before Ole Miss is the craziest thing of all this. He from Mississippi?
Posted on 10/11/24 at 5:47 pm to SemiNoblePursuit
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Just looking at the (poorly drafted) petition, they allege that the team trainer was basically making diagnoses and this was being signed off on by the team doctor (who hadn’t actually seen Greg him/herself). That looks a bit choppy.
This part is in the petition:
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“Athletic Trainer Stanley noted “[d]izzyness[sic] and weird auro[sic] then progressively got worse over the next 4 hours as well as headache. Presents like Vertigo. Given some meds and schedule for vestibular crystal evaluation/adjustment.”
Upon information and belief, this course of action was approved by Team Doctor Etheridge without Dr. Etheridge ever seeing the patient and with Dr. Etheridge allowing an athletic trainer to make the diagnosis of “vertigo” for Greg.
Upon information and belief, the LSU Defendants allowed Stanley and other athletic trainers to diagnose and treat student athletes without ever even consulting with a team physician
This sounds like the Team doctor treated the symptoms and suggested the scheduling of additional tests for his inner ear which is the next logical step for his symptoms.
If this is what the attorney is hearing on, it definitely seems like a stretch.
It also notes:
1. LSU paid for all care
2. LSU arranged for him to be admitted to the hospital the same day the tumor was discovered
The attorney is arguing that because this tumor is present in children, the surgery should have been completed by a pediatric neurosurgeon.
This post was edited on 10/11/24 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 10/11/24 at 5:49 pm to BayouTiger33
If the alleged is true maybe it’s a get out of jail free card on BKs contract
Posted on 10/11/24 at 6:02 pm to BayouTiger33
Timing makes you wonder if they dangled a settlement carrot in front of Woodward's face and threatened releasing it Ole Miss week before 7 straight conference games
Posted on 10/11/24 at 6:04 pm to Big4SALTbro
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If the alleged is true maybe it’s a get out of jail free card on BKs contract
even if literally every single sentence that that article says about LSU is true, then they did nothing wrong.
They treated symptoms in order of most likely causes.
Just like pretty much every other doctor would have done.
LSU told him he’s was free to miss practice. And just like if any other player missed for any other reason, he would run the risk of the person replacing him in practice also replacing him in games.
as far as the surgery and surgeon, that doesn’t fall on Kelly in any way.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 6:23 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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There isn't a doctor in the world who would realistically conclude that a healthy, athletic contact athlete in a sport known for brain trauma has brain cancer bc he's complaining of headaches.
If an athlete at a program as well funded as LSU complained of chronic headaches, a CT is warranted at the very least. Dudes with sprained ankles get MRIs
Posted on 10/11/24 at 6:47 pm to BayouTiger33
What is alleged about CBK?
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