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re: Give me good reasoning why LSU makes the playoff at 11-2?
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:19 pm to John_V
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:19 pm to John_V
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If a 1 loss Georgia and two loss LSU Meet in Atlanta winner gets the #4 spot imo
1-loss UGA is getting in over 2-loss LSU unless we absolutely pulverize them.
Even then, you may see the committee take their full body of work over ours.
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Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:29 pm to Phillytiger9
We should probably have a sticky for this topic since it’s come up so much and there’s still a week and change til Bama.
At present the leader in all 5 P5 conferences is undefeated. Now it is unlikely for all 5 champs to finish undefeated but we could have 3 (that happened in 2019). Does 2 loss LSU get in over say a 1 loss Big12 Champ Texas, who would have avenged their only loss and they beat Bama. It is also not a given LSU would get in over a 12-1 UGA that we beat (barring a blowout). Ask 2016 Penn St, they had 2 losses won the B1G, best tOSU. 1 loss tOSU went to the playoff.
TLDR? LSU would need lots of help
At present the leader in all 5 P5 conferences is undefeated. Now it is unlikely for all 5 champs to finish undefeated but we could have 3 (that happened in 2019). Does 2 loss LSU get in over say a 1 loss Big12 Champ Texas, who would have avenged their only loss and they beat Bama. It is also not a given LSU would get in over a 12-1 UGA that we beat (barring a blowout). Ask 2016 Penn St, they had 2 losses won the B1G, best tOSU. 1 loss tOSU went to the playoff.
TLDR? LSU would need lots of help
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:30 pm to John_V
quote:If Georgia has a loss before that then both are on the outside looking in going into that game.
If a 1 loss Georgia and two loss LSU Meet in Atlanta winner gets the #4 spot imo
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:33 pm to Broski
quote:Nah. Playoff predictor says LSU has a much better chance of making playoffs in the 11-2 LSU champ, 12-1 UGA scenario. Committees main criteria when judging teams are SOS and H2H. Conference championship + H2H plus LSU playing undefeated FSU instead of UTM gives LSU the jump over UGA
1-loss UGA is getting in over 2-loss LSU unless we absolutely pulverize them.
Even then, you may see the committee take their full body of work over ours.
11-2 LSU SEC champion
12-1 UGA SEC runner-up
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:47 pm to Phillytiger9
As long as there are a few one loss conf champs, it's possible. Strength of schedule will be nuts and strength of wins will be REALLY strong.
I really think at that point it will matter what you looked like beating Bama and UGA
I really think at that point it will matter what you looked like beating Bama and UGA
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:52 pm to Broski
quote:no way. UGA SOS is horrible. They will have lost to the only good team they'd played in that scenario.
1-loss UGA is getting in over 2-loss LSU unless we absolutely pulverize them.
Even then, you may see the committee take their full body of work over ours.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:53 pm to SportTiger1
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no way. UGA SOS is horrible. They will have lost to the only good team they'd played in that scenario.
Are you counting Missouri as a "good win" for LSU?
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:57 pm to Broski
I'm saying by that time Bama and UGA would be good wins. UGA would not have one of those, like at all
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:59 pm to SportTiger1
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I'm saying by that time Bama and UGA would be good wins. UGA would not have one of those, like at all
So you're not counting Missouri as a good win?
I think UGA's win over UK is good.
Even if I grant you that 2-loss LSU gets in over 1-loss UGA, 2-loss LSU isn't getting in over a 1-loss Pac 12, Big 12 or Big 10 team.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 10:11 pm to Broski
Well if Mizzou is a good win, both UGA and LSU get credit for a good win, so that's a wash. UGA would not have any other win on their schedule that compares to beating Bama and UGA.
You can call UK a good win but it's not on that level.
You're probably correct about the pac-12, but I don't think it's that cut and dry with a big 12 or the big 10
You can call UK a good win but it's not on that level.
You're probably correct about the pac-12, but I don't think it's that cut and dry with a big 12 or the big 10
This post was edited on 10/26/23 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 10/26/23 at 10:15 pm to SportTiger1
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or the big 10
1 loss Michigan or Ohio State is getting in over 2-loss LSU.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 10:33 pm to Phillytiger9
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Give me good reasoning why LSU makes the playoff at 11-2?
Wait i dont get it..,, do you want a completely hypothetical answer for your hypothetical question?
Posted on 10/26/23 at 10:49 pm to Phillytiger9
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Give me good reasoning why LSU makes the playoff at 11-2?
Well if the PAC 12, Big 12, BiG and ACC champs all finish with zero or 1 loss, a 2 loss LSU is out.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 10:56 pm to Phillytiger9
If there are 4 other conference champions at 12-1 or better, LSU doesn’t get in. Even if there are only 3, a one-loss Ohio St/Michigan loser gets in before LSU. A 12-1 non-champion Oklahoma probably would as well. It’s going to take some chaos for LSU to get in.
This post was edited on 10/26/23 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 10/26/23 at 11:07 pm to Phillytiger9
LSU has 2 more losses to come.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 8:42 am to Phillytiger9
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leave out 11-2 LSU.
If LSU won out and beat UGA, it would depend how other conferences played out.
You'd have
UGA 12-1
Conference Champions
Michigan 13-0 or OSU 12-1 or PSU 12-1
FSU 13-0
Oklahoma 13-0 or 12-1 Texas
Washington 13-1 or Oregon 12-1 or 12-1 Utah
It would be hard for a two loss SEC Champion to beat it 3 undefeated conference champions and/or 4-5 1 loss P5 teams already ahead of us.
Texas beating OU in the conference title would all but ensure both UT/OU get in. Michigan loosing to OSU and OSU winning would likely get OSU/UM in.
This post was edited on 10/27/23 at 8:44 am
Posted on 10/27/23 at 8:44 am to Phillytiger9
Being the first team to beat in Georgia in like 2 years will be a huge reason why
Posted on 10/27/23 at 9:13 am to Phillytiger9
Not likely but sunshine pumpers can pump!!
Posted on 10/27/23 at 11:30 am to Phillytiger9
Look to 2024 the top 12. LSU will not be in a playoff this year. 
Posted on 10/27/23 at 11:34 am to Broski
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1-loss UGA is getting in over 2-loss LSU unless we absolutely pulverize them.
Even then, you may see the committee take their full body of work over ours.
Really interesting spot. LSU needs Georgia to lose a game before the SEC Championship Game. Georgia's best chance for a loss may be against Ole Miss. LSU needs Ole Miss to lose a game too.
Florida and Tennessee are rivalry games and weird things happen while Georgia has looked semi-vulnerable. Tennessee is total arse but playing in Neyland will be tough.
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