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re: Fox analyst Joel klatt has LSU goin 7-1 in sec play and making the playoffs at 10-2

Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:36 pm to
Posted by DCtiger1
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:36 pm to
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We have not played a good sec team yet...


That remains to be seen. Not sure you can say SC isn’t a good team although that may turn out to be the case
Posted by Imber
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:53 pm to
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I don't think a lot of people appreciate how bad this defense is from a talent standpoint. It's going to get really ugly in conference play.



That’s a bit harsh. Yes we’re lacking at safety for sure but we have solid depth every where else. At corner we got promising youngsters in Stamps and woodland, a steady vet in zy and and solid 4th in jk Johnson.Even more otw with the 2025 class

At DL we are very deep. Our young DT’s like breaux and mcckinley were highly recruited guys and look very talented, we have a lot of talented rushers in jones, Womack, swimson and young guys like reliford

At lb,the weeks brothers and penn are solid and we have some extmrely athletic young talented guys like Atkins and singleton. We aren’t devoid of talent like your making it out to be


No, we don't. You're wish casting. There is no scenario in which LSU should be starting true freshmen at DT in Year 3, and that is entirely on Kelly. They have potential but they have been thrown into the fire before developing, and it is going to show up big time in conference play. I will just say that our DBs are limited without insulting them further. We are ok at DE. Our LBs play well in the box but are too slow to play on the edge. I think Kelly's current defensive hires are good coaches. They are recruiting well, but they are not miracle workers and this upcoming stretch of games is going to be difficult to watch.

I've said this about Kelly in other threads but I'll say it again. I've observed him for over two years now. He is not intimately involved in the day to day aspects of the team. He expects his assistants to follow a blue print of sorts that he has developed over the years and he expects it to run almost entirely independently of him. I've worked for his type and it couldn't be more obvious. He gets his memos and emails and sounds educated enough when he's giving his soundbites to the media but that's it. He's not rolling up his sleeves and really working hard. And then when things go bad he loses his mind and wants to blame everyone but himself. I hope I'm wrong but I think you're going to see it show up on game days from here on out.
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:06 pm to
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Tell these motherfrickers, Ryan
ALL YOU MOTHERfrickERS NEED TO CHILL!!


I got you DBG
Posted by Cd104
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:18 pm to
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No, we don't. Your wish casting. There is no scenario in which LSU should be starting true freshmen at DT in Year 3, and that is entirely on Kelly. They have potential but they have been thrown into the fire before developing, and it is going to show up big time in conference play. I will just say that our DBs are limited without insulting them further. We are ok at DE. Our LBs play well in the box but are too slow to play on the edge. I think Kelly's current defensive hires are good coaches. They are recruiting well, but they are not miracle workers and this upcoming stretch of games is going to be difficult to watch.



I mean true freshmen are starting cause guillory, our best and most experienced nose tackle, is out for the season so the young guys have to play more as a result. The Wisconsin DT also playing well bo Davis is coaching those guys up.


The lb room Penn is limited sideline to sideline but whit weeks absolutely is athletic sideline to sideline it’s simply controlling his aggressive csuse the South Carolina game is an example of where his aggressiveness can backfire. The freshmen lb’s def don’t lack sideline to sideline speed in Atkins and singleton their freak athletes.
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 9:20 pm
Posted by Laman1978
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:28 pm to
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Alabama will be like Saban Alabama
No. That dark cloud has passed. Not saying we'll win, but it's certainly not the same.
Posted by BK785
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:31 pm to
I hope they get payback against Bama. Someone should "greenlight" Milroe like they did Daniels last year. Frick Bama..
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:53 pm to
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No. That dark cloud has passed. Not saying we'll win, but it's certainly not the same.
True. They’re still an incredibly talented team though. On both sides of the ball.
Posted by NorthTxLSU
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:40 pm to
I would trust this a lot more if the team he has at 4 didn’t get the dog shite beat out of them by BYU
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 12:05 am to
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I don't think a lot of people appreciate how bad this defense is from a talent standpoint. It's going to get really ugly in conference play.


Is this defense the 2011 defense? frick no. Yet they aren't anywhere near as bad as 2020 or last season. Same goes for Nuss. Posters keep saying that he sucks when actually his play has been outstanding for a first year starter.

Too many of those rantards expect perfection from offense, defense & special teams including every player at every position. That's simply nonsense. It's irrational & unrealistic. EVERY team has flaws even those teams with 1-5 next to their names.

The defense this season has shown the ability to get stops & make adjustments when last season that was nonexistent. The offense under Nuss can put points up on the board against anyone. With the upcoming schedule, we are about to find out how that stacks up against better SEC competition but to say the team has no shot at all is absolutely ridiculous.
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 12:30 am to
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There is no scenario in which LSU should be starting true freshmen at DT in Year 3, and that is entirely on Kelly. 


Man GTFOH with this bullshite! Coach O his clown show, washed up, no recruiting arse hire Bill Johnson left us with no talent nor depth on the defensive line. Same goes for the secondary.

If you want to fault Kelly for his initial defensive hires then go head but even had he made better hires in the beginning, we still would be lacking experience by having to start 1st & 2nd year players on the interior defensive line. And I don't want to hear shite about the transfer portal either. Too many dumbasses out here thinking that there are All Americans waiting to be grabbed out of there. That simply isn’t the case.

Kelly also made a mistake by not retaining Corey Raymond despite what many on here had to say about Raymond. Raymond got drug down in that shitshow under O & the rehiring of that clown of Bo Pelini. Then Raymond goes to Florida to another shitshow with Billy Napier. It's amazing what the right environment & surrounding staff personnel can do for a fellow coach. This place is often narrow minded & unable to see the bigger picture.

It sucks the program is where it's at currently at talent wise on the defensive side of the ball yet the program is in much better hands with the current staff. Players are being coached better which has lead to less mental breakdowns than a season ago. Recruiting is definitely up. Overall things aren't perfect but it's much better & the sky isn't falling like you claim it is.
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 12:34 am to
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I mean true freshmen are starting cause guillory, our best and most experienced nose tackle, is out for the season so the young guys have to play more as a result. The Wisconsin DT also playing well bo Davis is coaching those guys up.


Don't forget we also had Mason Smith leave to go in the draft when he had no business doing so. It would have been nice to see him come back under Bo Davis to improve both his game & draft stock.
Posted by Cd104
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 12:37 am to
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Don't forget we also had Mason Smith leave to go in the draft when he had no business doing so. It would have been nice to see him come back under Bo Davis to improve both his game & draft stock.


Smith truly had no business declaring for the draft smh. With how much the guys have been improving on the DL I have no doubt Bo could’ve molded Masson into a stud
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 12:40 am to
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I would trust this a lot more if the team he has at 4 didn’t get the dog shite beat out of them by BYU ?


The Big XII champion is getting the 4th seed no matter what being that the seed goes to their conference as the 4th P4 champ. When it's all said & done, it's very possible that the Big XII champion at the 4th seed, will have more losses as well as "worse" losses than seeds 5-12.
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 12:47 am to
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Smith truly had no business declaring for the draft smh. With how much the guys have been improving on the DL I have no doubt Bo could’ve molded Masson into a stud


Could you imagine having an improved Mason Smith under Bo Davis this year along with not losing Guillory for the season with a torn Achilles? Now an average to slight above average line is actually a strength & your depth is pretty strong. Not to mention that Smith's play began to pick up late last season.
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 12:49 am
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 6:38 am to
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I don't think a lot of people appreciate how bad this defense is from a talent standpoint


The hope I have stems from something Kelly said at a press conference recently. He said something along the lines of we are done rotating so many people, now we have enough film to put our best out there.

Now, I think he was talking about safeties specifically. But this tells me that the position will get more consistent. Not suddenly turn into All Americans, but more consistent.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 6:53 am to
Could be


Maybe


It's possible
Posted by NorthTxLSU
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Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 6:54 am to
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The Big XII champion is getting the 4th seed no matter what being that the seed goes to their conference as the 4th P4 champ. When it's all said & done, it's very possible that the Big XII champion at the 4th seed, will have more losses as well as "worse" losses than seeds 5-12.


The issue is the team that whooped their arse is also in the big 12, so kinda wild having them in the spot rather than BYU.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:03 am to
I’ll take that
Posted by Zamperini2014
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:20 am to
The schedule sets up nice with byes before ole miss and bama. The offense is elite defense should get a little better each week.
Posted by BearkatTigerfan
Member since Dec 2016
277 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:42 am to
And last time Saban alabama came into Tiger Stadium how did that work out?
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