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Posted on 5/4/22 at 12:33 pm to damnstrongfan
Why are we still bitching about this? They are clearly working on restrictions on all of this.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 12:37 pm to Tiger1988
quote:No, really. Try reading it again.
Not really.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 12:37 pm to damnstrongfan
Its not the paying the players thats the problem. Its that there is no way to police other teams tampering with current players with NIL deals to get them to transfer.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 1:19 pm to damnstrongfan
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Only the elite's will be able to legitimately compete for the best players.
Wrong because all other schools have to do is up the ante and buy the kid from another team. They simply wait until they see a wanted player and buy him after he develops. It will eliminate recruited players busting out. There will be no “elite” teams which are immune for this crap. Bama lost their #1 RB from last year and you can bet money was a factor.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 1:23 pm to TIGERhype
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we live in a free market society and NIL is a great idea…
NIL is a great idea.
The way it is currently being implemented is not great.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 1:25 pm to Alt26
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The biggest disconnect between the fans of college football and basketball is them continuing to believe in the myth that they are "amateur sports" or at least just "extracurricular activities." They aren't. It is a multi-million/billion dollar entertainment BUSINESS.
The biggest disconnect is that the fans are the revenue. Whatever their perception is of the sports is really all that matters. If they are turned off by the new shape college sports, the revenue will suffer. Seems to be an overlooked fact in this discussion.
Is it good for players? Perhaps in the immediate/short term. But I think we are seeing in real time that only a few schools will be able to play this game effectively, and even schools like LSU that have been historically successful will be holding the bag. National intrigue will diminish and these kids who have really proven nothing about their playing ability will no longer be treated with kid gloves by fans and media.
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The schools are bringing in 50, 60, 70 millions of dollars in revenue from football and basketball. Even with the benefit of a full scholarship the players (arguably the most important peice of that revenue generating) weren't seeing a fraction of what the schools/conferences were bringing in
To round out my original point, I can only speak for myself, but I have always been interested in college sports because they players were college kids, and am interested in LSU football because they went to the same school as me. Even if their college experience was quite different than mine, there was a veil of amateurism that actually increased the appeal of the sport(s).
I don’t think the players are the most important piece of that equation, I think it’s the fans’ relationship with the school. To a degree I think that same relationship has driven popularity in professional sports.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 3:11 pm to damnstrongfan
I don't know anyone (not involved) that thinks it is good. I think it is what it is.
It is not capitalistic to limit what a kid can earn just because he is on an athletic scholarship. You don't get to decide what he is worth. He is worth what the market will pay for his services.
The real fun starts next April when tax season rolls around.
It is not capitalistic to limit what a kid can earn just because he is on an athletic scholarship. You don't get to decide what he is worth. He is worth what the market will pay for his services.
The real fun starts next April when tax season rolls around.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 3:23 pm to OceanMan
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I don’t think the players are the most important piece of that equation,
you've made good points, I hope the revenue base(the fans,) vote with the only weapon they have, which is to stop spending to support this sham, and as to the players not being important? no player , or coach for that matter is bigger than LSU, players and coaches come and go, LSU is always there
Posted on 5/4/22 at 5:40 pm to Lsuismyfav
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I love it for the players!
frick the players. Academically they aren't even qualified to be in college. If colleges were smart they'd shitcan this nonsense and return real college students to athletics and stop with this thug nonsense. If not, college sports, as we knew them, will cease to have much fan support. When that happens the TV dollars will start to dry up. You know what, that is the best thing that could happen to this mess. It is beyond disgusting! How anyone can root for their school with these phoney students, or have any pride in a win, just shows what this country has degenerated to.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:03 pm to damnstrongfan
TAMU is desperate so they will win the money battle over any school
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:42 pm to MOT
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No, really. Try reading it again.
You cannot use AD budget to fund NIL - period. We do not have deep enough pockets from the boosters to fund paying players. Do not.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:49 pm to Tiger1988
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No, really. Try reading it again.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:56 pm to Lsuismyfav
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I love it for the players!
This is such a naive point of view.
We are talking about 17 & 18 year olds. 17 & 18 year old kids who have money grubbing handlers and relatives pulling their naive, highly ignorant strings.
Lots of kids are going to be steered to programs that are not in their best interests. They will be programs in their handlers best interests. Lots of these kids are going to wind up broke, no education, and blown opportunities.
Sure, some will get great deals that will enrich them and their families. The majority, however, will be played. They will go to schools that they don’t really want to, aren’t in their long term best interests, and they will find themselves miserable while uncle rob and handier joe are blowing their money.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 8:55 pm to lsufb1912
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Jackson State University signed the top recruit
And he will be gone next season once he's collected his money from whichever Jackson state booster and moves to a higher bidder.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:01 pm to damnstrongfan
Is there anybody who thinks NIL is good for college sports?
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:17 pm to damnstrongfan
2023 QB recruit potentially getting $8M NIL deal. I would say that excludes many universities from recruiting this guy! Man the league needs to enforce restrictions! How about eliminating and creating a semi pro league?
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:48 pm to Lsuismyfav
I think both the NiL and transfer rule is great for college sports. Coaches can’t lie to get players anymore and why shouldn’t a college student be able to make money off themselves?
Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:11 am to J2thaROC
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Anyone who believes in capitalism should have always had a problem with players NOT being able to make money off their names and likeness.
I still believe the biggest red flag in this debate should be how many people are either mistaken or deliberately misleading people about this. Neither the NCAA nor any member school that I am aware of has ever prevented any student athlete from getting paid for their name, image, likeness or anything else. They simply aren't involved in that process as they are not parties to any such arrangements and therefore lack standing. All they have ever been in a position to affect is the student's eligibility to participate in NCAA and/or school sanctioned competitions. And the fact that advocates for giving the players more money so consistently misrepresent that fact should be convincing evidence that they know their position does not have a strong foundation in truth.
GEAUX TIGERS!!! 
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:07 am to damnstrongfan
He’s underestimating or misinformed if he thinks elites will only be making $100k. A backup QB that is not very good just left FL to make $75k a year at Arizona State. Transfer portal is doing more harm than NIL in my opinion, but NIL has been a disaster, too.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 6:53 am
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