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re: For the McManiacs: So McMahon needs how much NIL money

Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:03 am to
Posted by LSUFootballLover
BR
Member since Oct 2008
4648 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:03 am to
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It also not only helps, but IMHO is critical for McMahon or any other coach to court and actively and effectively cultivate said support.


This. Its a two way street.
Posted by TrueBaldPate
BR
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:06 am to
$700-800k gets you an decent player
To have a turn around like Vandy has had this year LSU needs $5m
3-4 players at $700k and 2 at $1.5-2m
Some role players cost less

That gets you to the tournament to have sweet 16 team need to get lucky or spend more
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
9534 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:24 am to
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If this year's team surges late and is able to tournament (NIT?), maybe NIL funding will surprisingly flow in.


This team will make the NIT by default under the new rules. The top two teams in the SEC that do not make the NCAA tournament get in the NIT and host a game, regardless of record. As of now, there are 13 SEC teams projected to make the tournament which means everybody but South Carolina would then get in the NIT or the NCAA tournament.

We could lose all of our remaining games by double digits and have a sub 500 record and get to take a lap and brag about making the NIT, it is complete crap
Posted by Shooter
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:27 am to
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I’ll hang up and listen.



Hang up and never come back would be a better option for us.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18685 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:32 am to
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o have a turn around like Vandy has had this year LSU needs $5m


Is this how much Vandy spent? Do we have these numbers?

I think a good argument can be made that CMM's initial recruiting/portal hauls his first year was better than this one from Vandy's this year at least as rated by folks who rate these things.
This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 9:39 am
Posted by Pnels08
Member since Jul 2014
10580 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:41 am to
The only thing I can find is they paid Hoggard around 800k and he was their big investment (other than the coach)
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:42 am to
I just come here to see who’s lives are the most miserable.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:43 am to
This post at 7:23 a.m. wins the contest
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18685 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:45 am to
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The only thing I can find is they paid Hoggard around 800k and he was their big investment (other than the coach)


I find their success this year frustrating as it relates to ours relatively speaking. But the narrative as I take it is - it's because of $$ and we're gonna fix that? Not sure how true it is - but again....I guess we're gonna find out.

Hope it works.
Posted by BRUNNIN4
CenTex
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:05 am to
Can't wait to see what excuse they come up with for next year when we miss the tourney yet again.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:05 am to
Fresh topic. Thanks for this thought-provoking post
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42607 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:11 am to
I
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It also not only helps, but IMHO is critical for McMahon or any other coach to court and actively and effectively cultivate said support.


Yes, I have been saying that.

It’s like a venture capitalist that needs to sell his ideas, his business to drum up financial support. You have to srll yourself and your program to boosters who are all potential investors.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70559 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:16 am to
Vandy did not spend 5mil. The numbers people are throwing around don’t make any sense and were fed to them by someone intentionally misleading them.

LINK
This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 10:21 am
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
12943 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:33 am to
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roster construction and retention aspects I have concerns about guarantee more $$ magically solves the problems. In other words - I still have concerns about CMM using the extra money efficiently.


Roster construction is adversely impacted when you are competing with more well funded programs. The talent deficiencies then result in more losses which makes it even harder to recruit. McMahon's teams have generally been competitive even when losing. A player or two that he may have had with better funding might have changed the outcome in some of those games. . Player retention has not been an issue. No player has left LSU and thrived elsewhere since McMahon arrived.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70559 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:35 am to
We have a top half roster. 5th best class in the SEC, highly productive transfers, length and depth. The imaginary funding deficiencies don’t exist, the alleged number you guys are using falls right into the margin of competitive teams.
This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 10:36 am
Posted by Gdellinger
Member since Dec 2024
686 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:35 am to
tree fiddy
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:39 am to
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Probably a lot from a depth perspective. Losing one of our best players early was a killer.

For someone that pretends to know a lot about basketball, you sure are stupid.
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
7398 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:45 am to
The deal is simple math in $, while still not giving a shite about MBB at LSU.
Fire McBland = 12mill$ (staff included)
Hire Another Mid Coach = 3-3.5 mill $
Total around 16 mill$
Keep McBland = 5.1mill$ (staff included.)
Devote about 3-5 mill$ NIL still MID
It’s about a 5mill$ saved instead of admitting mistake (SW)
LSU continues to flounder tween 9-16 in SEC, team moves up a few notches and McMen & SW sensationalize the improvement as McBland needed time & support knowing deep down it’s a financial band aid.
Truth is McBland is over his head
SW fkd up not backing WW because of pride & Football allegations
Even with money MM cannot talk the talk that it takes in modern day recruiting
SW throwing sht at the wall and hope it sticks, if it does the McMen & SW says told you so, if not we’re in purgatory of SEC MBB until Buyout is feasible (2 more years)
Real truth WW was not paying players out of his own pockets those were donors $$, the same ones that quit giving to LSU MBB after Wade was canned.
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8775 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:45 am to
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McMahon's teams have generally been competitive even when losing

This is totally incorrect.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27504 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:46 am to
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you sure are stupid.


It's not my fault that you don't understand the basketball climate in college athletics.

McMahon probably isn't the guy, but let's not act like giving him less than half of what other schools work with is a recipe for success, especially with us coming off sanctions.
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