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re: For everyone blaming Alleva

Posted on 3/9/19 at 7:14 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 7:14 am to
You in basically every thread just piling on Wade. You're a clown and everyone sees it.
This post was edited on 3/9/19 at 7:47 am
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 7:14 am to
Who’s alter are you?
Posted by Pelibeast
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 7:14 am to
I’m curious why anyone could stand by Alleva. What is your reason for that? I’m trying to be sincere when saying this.

Imo There has been multiple occasions where the university has been on the wrong side of PR spin over the last few years.
Posted by roger79
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 7:17 am to
They caved to media pressure. It was a report of a wiretap, not the actual wiretap. There was no need to do anything YET. If you think the NCAA eventually will go easy on LSU because of an early suspension, you’re dreaming.

Is Wade guilty? Almost definitely. But to do anything before due process runs its course is stupid and short-sighted, which is typical of the idiots that run LSU. When Kansas isn’t suspending Bill Self when he has incrimating texts against him aired in court, then why is LSU sitting Wade NOW?
This post was edited on 3/9/19 at 7:19 am
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 7:20 am to
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Wade refused to meet with administrators, there is absolutely no other choice at that point but suspension


This is the same exact response my father in law gave me last night while talking about this. You must be a union clown just like him.

If you read the statement from Alleva and F King, it says that they have known about this for months. Yet they wait until now to ask for WW to meet and discuss the matter? I call BS. This is cowardice in the face of some news reports. Period.

Now, 2-3 years from now, when / if the NC double a$$hole does their own investigation, then we see what happens.
This post was edited on 3/9/19 at 9:46 am
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 7:21 am to
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You in basically every thread Jay piling on Wade. You're a clown and everyone sees it.


You are in every thread melting like a 12 year old girl. Any manager realizes that when a story like this breaks and the coach refuses to meet with administrators you have two choices: termination or suspension.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 7:22 am to
How is it not....AU won a national title, Cam got paid in the NFL, and both are way better off for the situation.....nothing adverse happened to either party.

I'm not sure where the negative is there.

Don't be dumb.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 7:29 am to
Your point is about Auburn. Everyone was criticizing them. BUT THE AUBURN ADMIN DIDNT CAVE. They kept in playing and win the national title and the end result was they beat the NCAA rap.

LSU didn’t save themselves any NCAA investigation yesterday. If two months down the road proof is found that we paid a player, the sanctions are coming and they won’t go easy because we were cowards and suspended the coach with one regular season game left.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 7:31 am to
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You are in every thread melting like a 12 year old girl. Any manager realizes that when a story like this breaks and the coach refuses to meet with administrators you have two choices: termination or suspension.


You're more obvious than Tiger Ree that you work for the admin. You defend every stupid thing they do.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 7:33 am to
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Wade refused to meet with administrators, there is absolutely no other choice at that point but suspension.

you are buying a cya media leak from the admin
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 7:38 am to
quote:

a. that's football

b. that was still silly, b/c football is pretty dirty (just nowhere near as bad as CBB)




Agreed. Comparing the two is an exercise in futility.



quote:

c. Chizik wasn't suspended in the middle of the season. Wade should have been treated the same



While I do agree, the situations are different as well. Chizik wasn’t on tape. In fact the taped conversation wasn’t even about Auburn, but MSU.

But that didn’t change the eligibility issues sCam was looking at.


But still, not allowing the situation to play out, especially when they’ve known about it all season, is just baffling.

For everyone saying well if Wade refuses to meet with his employers what are they supposed to do?? They shouldn’t have asked to talk to him to begin with.

Of course Wade can’t talk to them because then they could be subpoenaed to testify about that conversation. There is no employer/employee privilege that would protect that conversation.


You simply issue a statement saying “The LSU Athletic Department is aware of the ongoing investigation, as is the NCAA. We are in contact and cooperating with the NCAA as we have been all season while the investigation continues and will take any necessary action once all information is available.”

PERIOD.

It was a boneheaded miscalculation to even propose a meeting, and just more proof of the utter incompetence and lack of understanding and damage control that this AD displays every time the spotlight points in his direction.



This post was edited on 3/9/19 at 7:43 am
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 7:42 am to
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Don't be dumb.


So you honestly think LSU fans now believe Auburn was innocent?
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 7:42 am to
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LSU susepends Wade, conducts an internal investigation and he returns for March Madness. Everyone needs to trust Alleva. He’s got this


That'll work for me. Per Wade's tweet "suspend judgment until the whole story" is the key. If the "whole story" vindicates Wade...cut Him loose for the Final Four.
Posted by p&g
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 7:43 am to
He didn’t mess things up for
K Fulton
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 7:44 am to
quote:

Of course Wade can’t talk to them because then they could be subpoenaed to testify about that conversation. There is no employer/employee privilege that would protect that conversation.


You simply issue a statement saying “The LSU Athletic Department is aware of the ongoing investigation, as is the NCAA. We are in contact and cooperating with the NCAA as we have been all season while the investigation continues and will take any necessary action once all information is available.”

exactly

they are pussies who caved and threw WW under the bus

this is the same admin who had Johnny fricking Jones get a Lebron-level recruit to LSU. they don't get to claim ignorance
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 7:45 am to
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You in basically every thread Jay piling on Wade. You're a clown and everyone sees it.



Yeah this is the idiot that defends O ad nauseum.

100% proof he is an AD shill account toeing the company line.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28470 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 7:45 am to
What’s does suspending him NOW accomplish?

There is no ongoing NCAA investigation. He has not testified in any trial. The wiretaps that ostensibly form the basis for this suspension were known of BEFORE the season started. Yet, Joe and Co. either deemed it unnecessary to investigate further or had no reason suspend Wade then.

If NCAA violations are found to have been committed then this season will be vacated anyway. What is self-imposing a 1 to 5-6 game ban at the end accomplish other than to publicly send the message that you think your coach is guilty...despite apparently knowing no actual information other than what has been reported? The time to suspend (if they wanted to suspend) was Oct. not now. Whatever damage there is is done. Why tank the season at the end when it for all practical purposes accomplishes nothing other than tanking the season? What is the NCAA going to do? “Vacate” the 18-19 season AND take away LSU’s 2006 Final Four appearance as an additional punishment? This is nothing more than spineless Joe and F. King reacting to negative media coverage. Just like Joe did at Duke (and LSU STILL hired this idiot!!)

Dispite what they may say (or not say, actually) LSU has already made the decision to fire Wade (whether that is right or wrong will be decided later). This is an effort to set up a “for cause” termination. The “cause” would still be there in April.

Unfortunately, this is just another example of these two dip shite LSU making LSU’s athletic dept. look like amateur hour:

Hiring a basketball coach no one else wanted (Jones)
Miles saga in 2015.
Triumphantly rushing to the podium to hire a HC that had ZERO demand after a 3 month “search”
Hurricane Matthew
A useless suspension at the end of the season.

I’m not defending Wade here. Just pointing out that LSU’s administration is a complete embarrassment. And that’s not just on the athletics side.
Posted by tonydtiger
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 7:48 am to
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What in your mind makes Wade an idiot?


Saying what he did on the phone with Dawkins pretty much places him in this category, I would say! Geeze!
Posted by alessic7
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Member since Aug 2018
1975 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 7:49 am to
Sean Miller still holding his job at Arizona should tell you enough. LSU admins and Alleva are spineless. Throwing your coach under the bus amongst this little round of scrutiny is a bitch move and the transcript actually proves NOTHING.. let the trial wade it out in due course and keep your damn best coach on campus until then.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 7:50 am to
It doesn't make a damn difference what random people think....facts of what happened are what matter
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