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Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:18 pm to LSBoosie
I know for a fact Dallas committed to Texas A&M like week after Johnson got the job at LSU
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:18 pm to Gnash
Here is the point that I tried to make and was called a dumbass, I’m worried going forward. This was a talented team, lack of pitching or not. He could have addressed that, but he didn’t. If he though he did then that’s a different situation, and I question some of his thinking. Hate acting like he has no blame in this. So we can agree to disagree and I hope I’m wrong in the future.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:19 pm to RightWingTiger
Doughty 21-.946
Doughty 22-.933
Thompson 21-.938
Thompson 22-.898
Why that happened I don’t know, but it needs to be fixed
Doughty 22-.933
Thompson 21-.938
Thompson 22-.898
Why that happened I don’t know, but it needs to be fixed
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:24 pm to talmaniandevil_25
I made a thread earlier asking when we should be concerned with Jason Kelly as a pitching coach. I think it's a fair question.
I refuse to believe that we didn't have enough talented arms on this team to find at least 2 consistent weekend rotation guys. I'm not even asking for a dominant friday night guy. Just two guys that could consistently give you quality starts.
ETA: Certainly it's too early to really know, but there are some red flags.
I refuse to believe that we didn't have enough talented arms on this team to find at least 2 consistent weekend rotation guys. I'm not even asking for a dominant friday night guy. Just two guys that could consistently give you quality starts.
ETA: Certainly it's too early to really know, but there are some red flags.
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:26 pm to talmaniandevil_25
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I question some of his thinking. Hate acting like he has no blame in this. So we can agree to disagree and I hope I’m wrong in the future
Dude ultimately he is the head coach and no matter what he inherited, the blame falls on him. I think there are reasons to be optimistic but you’re right that the results speak for themselves. I’m going to give him longer before I say he’s not the answer but that doesn’t mean everyone should think like me. It’s good that we have these discussions and these standards within our baseball fans.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:27 pm to talmaniandevil_25
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:28 pm to Gnash
Fair. Hopefully I’m wrong. Some things just seem to glaring to me. I’ll give him the benefit of doubt, I just hate not being able to get routine outs. That to me always falls on coaching and prep. Just was too bad this year, and it coulda helped pitching.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:28 pm to talmaniandevil_25
What a crappy take. We were lucky to be where we were with the starting pitching that was left behind by Pawl. With good pitching we would have rolled the SEC. We ended up fourth with not one true starter. The defense improved the last third of the season. It still needs to be better though. Because we had no starting pitching our bull pen ran out of gas the last few weeks of the season. Jay sucked every bit he could out of this team. If we are still seeing the same issues after year 3 then get back to me.
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:30 pm to UpToPar
I’m more concerned that guys that we used heavily last year haven’t developed enough to even see the field this year.
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:31 pm to talmaniandevil_25
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I get he didn't have the pitching
This is the equivalent of saying, "Consider this, we were last in SEC in rushing. I get that we did not have an offensive line or running backs, but..."
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:31 pm to MikeTheTiger71
Pitching is 80% of baseball if not more. If you ain’t got it, you’ve got little chance. LSU didn’t have much of it today.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:32 pm to Turf Taint
We were fourth in pitching though.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:34 pm to LSBoosie
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I’m more concerned that guys that we used heavily last year haven’t developed enough to even see the field this year.
Yes. Helmers and Edwards both showed some promise towards the end of last year. The fact that neither even contributed this year is concerning. As is Floyd's lack of developing a consistent second pitch.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:35 pm to UpToPar
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As is Floyd's lack of developing a consistent second pitch.
Floyd made a lot of strides the last couple of months. Hellmers and Edwards may not be back next year if I had to guess
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:36 pm to UpToPar
I thought Floyd developed a ton even from earlier this season
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:39 pm to lsufball19
Floyd started to get there in his last few starts, but his breaking ball is still inconsistent. It shouldn't take nearly two full seasons/off seasons to develop a breaking pitch. I understand Johnson/Kelly are only responsible for 1 of those seasons/off seasons, but still.
The arm talent is there. Collins, Ryzleman, Taylor, Lansville, Gervase all have plenty of "stuff." There's no reason we couldn't develop one of them into a weekend starter.
The arm talent is there. Collins, Ryzleman, Taylor, Lansville, Gervase all have plenty of "stuff." There's no reason we couldn't develop one of them into a weekend starter.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:41 pm to UpToPar
Hellmers isn’t weekend material
Edwards was coming off an injury
Floyd developed just fine by the end of the season
Edwards was coming off an injury
Floyd developed just fine by the end of the season
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:41 pm to talmaniandevil_25
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:46 pm to deaux
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Hellmers isn’t weekend material
Kurt McCune wasn't "weekend material" either. At some point, you have to stop making excuses and develop a few guys. The fact that we didn't have an option better than Dutton at the end of the season is sad.
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Edwards was coming off an injury
Okay. Does that mean he was incapable of pitching? Did he re-aggravate the injury during the year?
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Floyd developed just fine by the end of the season
Floyd started throwing his breaking ball more consistently in his last few appearances, but it should not have taken him that long to get there. If we get April/June Floyd and February/March Money all year we would be talking. Obviously that didnt happen. This was a very odd year for our pitching staff. I'm just not buying the "we have no arm talent" argument.
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