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False Dichotomy - Pro Athletes versus Amateur Athletes

Posted on 8/28/26 at 1:13 pm
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7978 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 1:13 pm
The media is seemingly up in arms about "pro" athletes being able to go back to compete in college football games.

Eligibility for college football cannot be determined by whether the athlete is or was a pro athlete.

There is no amateurism any longer. Amateurism is dead. There are no amateur football players in Power 4 college football.

There is way too much money in college football to have amateurs.

There is too much demand for the best players to play college sports.

The demand for the best players far exceeds $0. It far exceeds scholarships, free room and board, academic help, and a few thousand dollars in incidental payments.

The demand is willing to pay millions of dollars for the best players.

Amateurism is dead. It's been dead for a long time. It's been dead for decades.

The false dichotomy is the genesis of the current media angst concerning former pros coming back to play college sports.

It's currently the place where everyone wants to draw the line because most think it only affects LSU, and current thinking is that LSU wears a black hat.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48873 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 1:17 pm to
Indeed.
Posted by Jest a game
Member since Aug 2024
2685 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 1:19 pm to
College players are pros. They getting paid to play. When NIL started they became pros
Posted by Nitrogen
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2016
9828 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 1:20 pm to
I truly miss Amite barber, brown bag under the table “amateurism”. Never know what you have until its gone

This post was edited on 8/28/26 at 1:37 pm
Posted by bgtiger
SOLA
Member since Dec 2004
12266 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

There is way too much money in college football to have amateurs.


What is the right amount? Who gets to determine how much money made by an organization deletes amateurism?

The little league world series makes money, i assume. Do they profit share with the kids? Will you tell me that it takes money to run the national Little League organization and put on the events? How would you tell me that is different?

This post was edited on 8/28/26 at 1:31 pm
Posted by stuckintexas
Austin & DFW
Member since Sep 2009
3407 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 1:31 pm to
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I truly miss Amite barber, brown bag under the table “amateurism”

Like Coach O said, the only difference between then and now is that you can carry the bag through the front door instead of having to go around back
Posted by No Faux Tiger
Member since Aug 2026
6 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 1:33 pm to
College Football Player

Semi-Pro Football Player

They are synonymous now and have been since NIL…
Posted by Tigerpaul1969
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Jan 2010
4720 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 1:41 pm to
I still remember the sanctimonious talking heads in the years leading up to the NIL floodgates opening bitching about how the poor athlete wasn’t getting his and it’s all about fairness blah blah. Now all they bitch about is how the schools are treating this like a business. Sports reporters, especially the douchey national reporters, truly suck arse.
Posted by LVag1997
Member since Jun 2021
1106 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 2:00 pm to
Aside from the 2022 class that the NCAA screwed....it should be real easy. You have 5 years to play 5 seasons. No exceptions.

Lets discuss the 2022 class. You sign a contract and make money. No college eligibilty. You don't sign a contract. You play in 1 preseason game. You have 1 year of eligibilty. Anything less, you have 1 year of eligibilty.

You play in multiple preseason games. No eligibilty.

Just my thoughts on fairness. Referring to football.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
31323 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 2:08 pm to
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What is the right amount? Who gets to determine how much money made by an organization deletes amateurism?
If you ask some of these same people if high school football players should be paid they would shite themselves and scream that “it’s not the same thing!!” even though we know there are programs out there who are making money, play on TV, have huge facilities, have coaches that make crazy money relative to their peers, etc.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7978 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

What is the right amount? Who gets to determine how much money made by an organization deletes amateurism?

The little league world series makes money, i assume. Do they profit share with the kids? Will you tell me that it takes money to run the national Little League organization and put on the events? How would you tell me that is different?
The market determines what a player should be paid. The SCOTUS told everyone that you cannot reduce compensation by declaring the athlete an "amateur" for college sports. See Alston.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9757 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 2:34 pm to
The line they are trying to preserve at this point is not professional vs amateur.

It's NFL/NBA vs college.

Seems the thinking is that the big money college sports, football and basketball, will lose even more appeal the more those boundaries are blurred.

So, they want college sports to be seen as much as possible as a separate, unique entity -- regardless of player compensation -- and not blurred with the NFL/NBA where precedents are continually pushed allowing players to go back and forth like it's the minors.






This post was edited on 8/28/26 at 2:37 pm
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