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Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by Paul Maul number 37
Member since Feb 2009
1111 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:15 pm to
They picked up the flag and said play the down over. That false flag screwed the tigers out of a sack for loss in overtime.
Posted by TigerAlum93
Member since Sep 2010
3112 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:19 pm to
You will get down-voted for this very objective, logical, well presented post. Kudos for doing it anyway!
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34152 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:37 pm to
He catches the ball, turns downfield and begins advancing the ball. The kicker is, his grasp was maintained at the initial contact, which is another indicator of possession, (the second or even third present here, after tucking it and advancing it). It was in the next instant that the ball was knocked out.

Catch, turn, tuck, advance, make contact, then the ball’s out.
Posted by BTRDD
Member since Jun 2009
3573 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:21 pm to
Snap was at 1 second, and absolutely no time elapsed from taking the snap to downing the ball? Did time stop? We are talking about a tenth of a second. There is no way a full second should be put on the clock.
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 2:23 pm
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:23 pm to
Check out this video on the Advocate website. Watch how long the clock reads 1sec...

LINK
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:25 pm to
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Watch how long the clock reads 1sec...


Because that gif is slowed down at that point.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14113 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:28 pm to
IMO, the worst call was STernberger's FUMBLE. Game over LSU wins 34-31. It was not simply a 50-50 judgment call. It was a classic catch and fumble by any definition.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19145 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:29 pm to
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Snap was at 1 second, and absolutely no time elapsed from taking the snap to downing the ball? Did time stop? We are talking about a tenth of a second. There is no way a full second should be put on the clock.


surely you realize that the clock will only change to :00 when the entire second elapses. This isn't basketball, where the clock shows tenths of seconds.

A snap can occur at :01 and the ball can hit the ground, both at :01. But that doesn't mean the clock didn't move. It just didn't move all the way down to zero.
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 2:32 pm
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19145 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:50 pm to
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Snap was at 1 second, and absolutely no time elapsed from taking the snap to downing the ball? Did time stop? We are talking about a tenth of a second. There is no way a full second should be put on the clock.
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surely you realize that the clock will only change to :00 when the entire second elapses. This isn't basketball, where the clock shows tenths of seconds.

A snap can occur at :01 and the ball can hit the ground, both at :01. But that doesn't mean the clock didn't move. It just didn't move all the way down to zero.
see, this is what I just love about this board - people downvoting factual statements.

The way the clock works is that it won't hit :00 until there's literally no time left. So when the clock shows :01, there's actually (if we use hundredths) between .00 and 1.00 seconds left.

So the snap could've occurred at .99 seconds and the ball hit the ground at .01 seconds, but the scoreboard clock would still show :01.

Don't know how someone can downvote a fact.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
24381 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:53 pm to
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The problem is how it was enforced. They stop the clock and that allows Texas A&M to reset.

should be a clock runoff in this scenario...they need to add that to the rules...somehow..

ETA: oops, forgot they ran off time on that play...thought it was after a penalty.
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 5:40 pm
Posted by safety_man
Sulphur
Member since Dec 2013
202 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:56 pm to
So you just basically agreed to everything that NFL ref said in Advocate article and passed it off as your own. And then to claim superior football intellect when someone disagrees with you? Get the frick outta here douchebag.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19145 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:57 pm to
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should be a clock runoff in this scenario...they need to add that to the rules...somehow
they did - a 10 second runoff.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21448 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:01 pm to
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should be a clock runoff in this scenario...they need to add that to the rules...somehow


I just don’t see a way to truly simulate the runoff, so they give them a 10 second runoff and call it a day.

The only real way to avoid getting into these situations where the refs truly can’t make both teams whole is to not have them subject to review.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
32692 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:02 pm to
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Were they all set? And were there 7 men on the line? Tough call
yes.. not tough.. easy....
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:04 pm to
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I think that was a delay of game, and it was correct


No, I don't think so. It was when the A&M back was moving parallel to the line before the snap and they stopped the play in the middle of it to call a procedure penalty. But then they picked up the flag. The result of the play was negated.
Posted by Boudreau34
Member since Sep 2018
121 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:05 pm to
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4) The Sternberger fumble/incompletion. Very much a judgment call. The review was correct not to overturn because it was called incomplete on the field. The original call could have gone either way and, whichever way it went, the review would not have overturned. Unfortunate 50-50 call.

The review?? What review? Did you watch the game? Plays like that you let them play on then take it to the replay booth if it needs to be overturned. The bullshite part is that they didn’t even review it. How in the hell in the second overtime do you not review a “50/50 play” (wasn’t even close at all it was a fumble). They were 110% sure it wasn’t a fumble?? Total BS. They go back and find that mond’s knee was down but don’t review the biggest play of the entire game? BS
Posted by BoozeCrooze
Member since Jun 2017
33 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:19 pm to
My issue is that if you are going to call the Sternberger catch incomplete because he didn't have possession how can you say that Mond had possession when he was trying to pick up the ball.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19145 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:58 pm to
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The review?? What review? Did you watch the game? Plays like that you let them play on then take it to the replay booth if it needs to be overturned. The bullshite part is that they didn’t even review it. How in the hell in the second overtime do you not review a “50/50 play” (wasn’t even close at all it was a fumble).
The booth reviews every play, and calls down when they need more time. I suppose they saw it live and then saw a quick replay and thought it was correctly called.
Posted by Game2620
Canada
Member since Dec 2013
1429 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 4:12 pm to
Sternberger’s reaction is the most telling sign. He was pounding the ground. He knew he fumbled.

On incompletions, the receiver almost always gets up and starts signally incomplete frantically.
Posted by Fastcat
Member since Nov 2016
441 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 12:25 am to
I doubt it very seriously.
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