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re: Evans as our third starter

Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:52 am to
Posted by ArcticTiger
North Pole
Member since Nov 2018
2118 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:52 am to
Only time Noot was our 3rd Starter was SECT and Regional. Evans was 3rd Starter the 2nd half of the SEC Season.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61735 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:53 am to
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I look at it like this. Do you think this team can win a 9 inning game in Supers or Omaha without any of Anderson, Eyanson, or Evans. I don't.


Never know until you get there.

Our bullpen was pretty rough in 2023 too and somehow became lights out once the postseason started, especially in Omaha.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
10506 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:54 am to
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Skenes Ack Cooper Herring Floyd Hurd Who am I missing?

Hurd
Posted by USAFTiger42
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
3462 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:56 am to
Cowan is only good for an inning until teams catch on but yeah can't be high pressure situation. It would have to be a bridge role
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
25786 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:57 am to
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Last time we won it all, wasn't it 5 or 6 pitchers we rode with?


I am remembering that we use 7-8.

Guidry
Ack
Coop
Hurd
Skenes
Floyd
Coleman
Herring

Those are the ones I remember. Did anyone else throw in high leverage situations?

Our staff was pretty depleted and we relied on Coop to be a short and long reliever, if I recall...

It would be great if we could go Anderson/Cowan in game one and Eyanso/Evans in game two, but we need someone for games 3 and 4. We were starting Thatcher Hurd in game 3, and keeping our fingers crossed. Ack was our fourth starter in Omaha.

You always have to remember, that it is apples to apples when you get to the 3rd and 4th games. The other teams are rolling the dice on their pitchers, too. Anderson and Eyanson are going to be going up against quality pitchers when they are on the mound. We have a real advantage if we can put Evans out as a starter in the third game, should we make it that far. I like it best if we can take advantage of it.
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 10:02 am
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
87326 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:58 am to
why do you need a THIRD starter?

stop manifesting bad things, man.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
43379 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:02 am to
Coleman didn't do anything in CWS that I remember. Against Wake started and only got 4 outs and walked 4. We have guys that can do that

But yes we definitely need more than 3

Shores, Williams, Noot, and Cowan are still
the guys we try and go with for now
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 10:06 am
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285226 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:05 am to
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Noot is the 3rd starter.


Noot is an opener at best. You are giving in to an all staff game if you start him. This is a back-against-the-wall measure
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
25786 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:05 am to
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why do you need a THIRD starter?


Because we need one in Omaha. Be nice if they gave us the trophy if we win the first two games, but that ain't happening...
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
43379 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:08 am to
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It would be great if we could go Anderson/Cowan in game one


You have more trust than me right now with that. Would need a big lead IMO
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47477 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:13 am to
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we have a third pitcher who is just as dominant as the other two.

No we don’t. You are getting way carried away. It was a great performance by Eyanson, but six innings against Ark Little Rock is not the same as what Anderson and Eyanson have done this season week after week after week.

I still don’t see Evans as a starter this season. It’s not that he wouldn’t be good; it’s just that we need him in the pen to close game one or two of the Supers if we have the lead in a close one. Cowans has lost the knack, and we have no one else we can absolutely count on in a tight situation.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32193 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:16 am to
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When we get to Omaha, we will need 4 starters.


Almost no one has 3 reliable starters...let alone four. Most teams have two good starters and a bunch of inconsistent guys who are capable of a great game from time to time. That's essentially what LSU had two years ago. It was Skenes, Floyd, and hope for the best. The bullpen, collectively, stepped up huge in the CWS. But it wasn't a very good or consistent unit throughout the year.

LSU has the advantage in any game Anderson or Eyanson start. After that, you aren't certain of what you are going to get. The falloff of Cowan is big because now LSU is left with only one reliable arm (Evans) outside of the big two.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47477 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:24 am to
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He should have started the third game of this regional.

No, no, no and hell no!

The game last night showed the wisdom of starting Cowan instead of Evans. Cowan was the guy who was shaky, and we had no reliable options in the pen besides Evans and Eyanson. So the plan was to get nine from those three pitchers.

Once Evans had 15 outs he was losing it. If CJJ had started Evans he would have lifted Evans right there and put in Cowans. If Cowans did the same in relief as he did starting then you are looking at zero outs in the seventh inning and you have to pull Cowans. Or maybe one out if you want to count the sacrifice he got. Now instead of having to get five outs Eyanson has to get eight or nine. CJJ showed last night, by riding Evans when he was starting to spray the ball, that he would not let Eyanson face more than five.

So if we had started Evans we would have had to get a full inning, or maybe four outs, from our bullpen.

BTW, when Evans was getting his last three outs, and starting to miss his spots, I was getting that tight feeling in my chest I used to get when Mainieri used to ride pitchers well past the point most of us would have pulled him. CJJ made the right call, though.
Posted by Asleepinthecove
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2023
1654 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:24 am to
Cooper Williams is a reliable arm out of the bullpen that’s been underutilized by Jay. He can be our Riley Cooper down the stretch. Just look at his numbers. He could be one of our starters next year.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
43379 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:31 am to
With that performance this weekend, Williams will be used. Probably moved himself up to number 4 or 5 right now
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
25786 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:52 am to
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Shores, Williams, Noot, and Cowan


For significant innings. At least one of those guys will have to start a game if we go deep at Omaha. I expect that we will need Schmidt and/or Rizy to go a couple of innings in a close game at some point in Omaha. Probably one of those situations where CJJ puts them in the game to get out a batter and leaves them in as long as they keep throwing strikes.

We'll still need Rizy, Primeaux, Mayers, Schmidt, Williams, Benge for situational stuff and to save the frontline guys if the game is out of hand. These guys will probably get some mound time with a very short leash.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
29167 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 11:55 am to
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Shores, Williams, Noot, and Cowan are still the guys we try and go with for now


I think Cooper Williams staked a claim on a bigger relief role on Sunday. I know we lost, but he was BY FAR the best pitcher we played in that game. He gave us a chance to get back in it by working out of any jams and hanging goose eggs. He earned trust that should have him above Primeaux, Rizy, Schmidt, Ware and Benge. And even Cowan if he continues to struggle.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
29167 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 11:59 am to
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We'll still need Rizy, Primeaux, Mayers, Schmidt, Williams, Benge for situational stuff and to save the frontline guys if the game is out of hand. These guys will probably get some mound time with a very short leash.


I never could get an answer from anyone on Fontenot. Is he on the postseason roster, or not? He looked better in his last three short appearances than any of the bottom 1/4 of the pen.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
29570 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 12:09 pm to
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I never could get an answer from anyone on Fontenot. Is he on the postseason roster, or not?
No. You can basically get to the full roster just by going down the box scores or list of guys who played this weekend.

ETA: Pretty sure it can be reset after each round in case of injuries, etc.
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 12:11 pm
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
43379 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 12:20 pm to
Yeah I wish we had a few more midweek games to take a longer look at Fontenot. Must have been something in team season scrimmages that didn't impress the coaches enough.
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