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re: Eric Reid takes a knee....on Veterans Day weekend

Posted on 11/13/17 at 8:17 am to
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 8:17 am to
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Don't disrespect the national anthem and the soldiers that fight for the rights for the players to play.


Please explain this sentence cuz I'm really tired of hearing it. I don't think you understand the cognitive dissonance necessary to put this sentence together. How are the soldiers fighting for the right to play? Specifically point out a time when the soldiers have been fighting for the right for people to play football or for freedom in general.
Posted by reggieray420
Member since Dec 2016
2700 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 8:18 am to
I mean who isn’t protesting that retarded piece of shite
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 8:22 am to
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Well to be fair, the DNC does brainwash you into believing everything you're doing is for a higher purpose.


FIFY
Posted by Flashtiger
Member since Aug 2017
176 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 8:22 am to
Funny thing is is they have no idea why they are kneeling.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27773 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 8:30 am to
FER
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 8:31 am to
Kneeling does nothing. Despite what the lying liberal media says everybody is already treated equally. Everyone is judged by the conduct of their actions the way it should be. Eric Reid is disrespecting the national anthem, American Flag, and all US veterans. It is very unpatriotic. His actions would be exactly the same as an Isis terroist’s actions would be toward our anthem, flag, and us veterans.....full of disrespect.
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 1:03 pm
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 8:31 am to
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Funny thing is is they have no idea why they are kneeling.


Kaep was given away by parents, adopted by whites, given the most WASP name in humankind, had every opportunity made available to him, became a millionaire, all the while knowing his story of abandonment and seeing the statistics like his skyrocketing while he's making millions by the name Colin Kaepernick?

You don't think this dude's head is jello?
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
20149 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 8:39 am to
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quote:
As our national anthem includes language about sending slaves to their graves, it includes the oppression of blacks. ...Hence the protest.

that's not what they say they're protesting.

And please provide this language that's offensive. In all my years of singing the national anthem, I've never noticed one word about sending slaves to their graves.
Posted by Mulerider
Member since Jul 2013
1615 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 8:39 am to
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If that’s the position he wants to take, then I’m done with him. I won’t support in the NFL.



FIFY, the NFL portrays everything wrong with the country. The elitist, hate America leftist are taking over every aspect of life. Anyone still supporting this league or its sponsors is part of the problem.

Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
20149 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 8:42 am to
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Free speech baws. He gets to kneel, you get to stop “supporting” him - whatever that means.

Free speech (i.e, the First Amendment) has ZERO to do with this case.

The First Amendment only applies to the GOVERNMENT. The NFL isn't the government - they're a private entity and can limit speech however they want.

So Reid has NO free speech rights within the context of his employment.

It amazes me how little people really understand our Constitution.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 8:48 am to
Get the 1st amendment BS out of this thread. You do not have 1st amendment rights while at work. If you think you do then go protest outside your bosses office and see how that works out for you.

I missed where Hollywood stars used their acting to display their beliefs.

Many use their celebrity status as a pedestal quite often but they do so outside of the studio.



Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 8:52 am to
There is a verse that is never used that ignorant masses are talking about.

They leave out the fact that Key was referring to slaves that took up arms against the colony for the British. So of course they wanted to send them to their graves.
Posted by SomeTigre
Member since Jan 2016
133 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 8:55 am to
You have the right not to support him, the same way He has the right to protest however way he wants.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 8:59 am to
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Whatever happened to respectful disagree in this country?


How is declining to respect flag and country respectful?

Go take a knee at midfield between quarters and have people ask "what are they doing" if you want to respectfully bring awareness to an issue. Kneeling while asked to stand to respect the flag is quite literally the definition of being disrespectful.
And that's fine, it his right. But it's the right of people here to reciprocate disrespect with disrespect.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63026 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 9:01 am to
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So you think one of the purposes of kneeling is directed at the military with the intention of disrespecting the military?



I think they decided to be disrespectful to the flag and anthem as a way to get people to pay attention for their true cause, which I would best describe as a Black Lives Matter movement. Needless to say, the protest was very poorly aimed relative to the cause, and the players have paid and continue to pay a PR price for that.

Personally, I think the BLM movement is 95% manufactured and 5% legitimate. But, I don't think that's most important. If someone was protesting child cancer funding (a cause that everyone probably would sympathize with) and decided to protest by burning a flag, the response would be similar. You better make sure you are protesting the proper entity in the proper way if you want people to listen to you and join your cause.

The bottom line is that they wanted to be disrespectful because they thought it would help them gain the attention they needed. In hindsight, it has been a laughably poor decision for them and everyone connected to them (NFL as a whole).

If Eric Reid were to show up at LSU to stand up and wave during a timeout, I would boo the ever living shite out of him...and I've never boo'd in Tiger Stadium. In my opinion, I don't want him around LSU, and I know I share that opinion with a significant number of people.
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 9:02 am to
frick him very much!!!!!
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 9:02 am to
Actually no

You have the right not to support him as a consumer can do whatever the hell they want.

He does not have the right to protest while at work. If the NFL allows him to do so then that is the sole reason why he is allowed.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63026 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 9:06 am to
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what this protest is NOT about is about the military or the "flag" or whatever else that some people want to misconstrue it as...




They are protesting the flag and the anthem and everything it represents.

It's universally recognized that respect for the flag, anthem is shown by standing. They are taking an alternate approach because they don't want to show respect.

This is common sense.
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 9:42 am
Posted by Minden tiger
Minden,Louisiana
Member since Apr 2006
3337 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 9:06 am to
Out of curiosity, what do the anti-protest folks think about the thousands of veterans who've spoken out saying they don't mind the protests one bit and that this is exactly what they fought for?
Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
24856 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 9:07 am to
As I read through this, and other commentaries about "kneeling", it seems that clarity is missing. I propose that those who want to express their 1st Amendment rights should do so in a clear and concise manner, and in a proper setting.

Use your money to take out a full page ad to make sure that others know EXACTLY what you are trying to say. Spend your money, speak your mind, and let the opinions of others be formed.

Kneeling at your place of employment, while protected by the police, seems selfish and disingenuous.
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