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re: Entitlement culture
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:39 pm to DCtiger1
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:39 pm to DCtiger1
If he understands that he isn't the most talented and isn't getting the starting spot, there's nothing wrong with putting himself in a situation at another program that fits his talent. Especially with having only four years.
How many jobs have you had? If you tell me more than one, you're a hypocrite.
How many jobs have you had? If you tell me more than one, you're a hypocrite.
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:40 pm to DCtiger1
This is such a strange argument. I mean it really is.
He praised our school mightily, then told everyone that he was going to go where he thought he had a better opportunity.
There are so many unknowns to make a judgment like "he's leaving, athletes are entitled". Maybe he's not talented enough to start in the SEC, or maybe he didn't feel like waiting and this is America, maybe he realized he played for Ed Orgeron, who knows.
Basically when you call the kid entitled and he hasn't given the impression to ANYONE that he feels entitled to ANYTHING, then you are just projecting on him, and you're mad that LSU won't now have better options at QB in two years.
And I just really don't think he owes us that.
But if we want to just use B.S. cliche anecdotes about little league, we can use this analogy.
Dads will tell you "life is a competition, and nobody gives you a leg up because you think you deserve better."
Dads will also tell you "life is short, don't sit around on your butt waiting for good things to happen to you.
Or here's one for you,
Ed Orgeron didn't get the job at USC. By this line of thinking he should have stayed there and competed. But he didn't. He wanted to be a head coach and so he left.
He left and now he is the head coach at LSU. (mores the pity.) He would not be the head coach at LSU if he was still at USC waiting to show he was best for that job.
He praised our school mightily, then told everyone that he was going to go where he thought he had a better opportunity.
There are so many unknowns to make a judgment like "he's leaving, athletes are entitled". Maybe he's not talented enough to start in the SEC, or maybe he didn't feel like waiting and this is America, maybe he realized he played for Ed Orgeron, who knows.
Basically when you call the kid entitled and he hasn't given the impression to ANYONE that he feels entitled to ANYTHING, then you are just projecting on him, and you're mad that LSU won't now have better options at QB in two years.
And I just really don't think he owes us that.
But if we want to just use B.S. cliche anecdotes about little league, we can use this analogy.
Dads will tell you "life is a competition, and nobody gives you a leg up because you think you deserve better."
Dads will also tell you "life is short, don't sit around on your butt waiting for good things to happen to you.
Or here's one for you,
Ed Orgeron didn't get the job at USC. By this line of thinking he should have stayed there and competed. But he didn't. He wanted to be a head coach and so he left.
He left and now he is the head coach at LSU. (mores the pity.) He would not be the head coach at LSU if he was still at USC waiting to show he was best for that job.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:43 pm to Mr LSU2001
It’s much different.
I agree.
Oh well, it is what it is.
I agree.
Oh well, it is what it is.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:16 am to Goldrush25
I guess you’d say the same of Joe Burrow right?
When Joe Burrow transfers, he's a future great.
Narcisse transfers, no chest, disloyal
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What degree is LN leaving LSU with?
Asking for a friend?
When Joe Burrow transfers, he's a future great.
Narcisse transfers, no chest, disloyal
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What degree is LN leaving LSU with?
Asking for a friend?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 4:35 am to lsu2006
Burrows case is different. Graduate transfer coming off injury and wanting an opportunity to start, after decision going with probably best QB prospect ever to suit up as a Buckeye in years. Narcisse should have stayed and competed. LSU was loyal and stood by him with Scholarship offer with his injuries when they did not have to. Big baby!
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 4:41 am
Posted on 8/15/18 at 4:38 am to DCtiger1
quote:
He’s a freaking Redshirt freshman and he’s already giving up on his team because he feels entitled to start.
Pretty much. Logically, it's really not reasonable for Narcisse to be transferring at this point. It's kind of hard to argue that.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 4:58 am to DCtiger1
quote:
Entitlement culture
Fail!
This has nothing to do with entitlement. People change jobs when they perceive that they have better opportunities elsewhere.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 5:08 am to DCtiger1
Sounds like you feel entitled to having a football player stay with the team you like, even if it’s not in that player’s best interest.
Also sounds like you’re letting a 19 year old playing an amateur sport get to you. Snowflake.
This is fun!
Also sounds like you’re letting a 19 year old playing an amateur sport get to you. Snowflake.
This is fun!
Posted on 8/15/18 at 5:53 am to DCtiger1
i agree with you 100%...i remember the time when qbs came to college knowing they would only play there jr and/or sr year. now every qb believes they are good enough to start in a top tier power house college football team when in fact there are only a hand full that would even compete and lead there team. Most of these teams already have good players around them so it makes his life a little easier
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:06 am to DCtiger1
Delayed gratification and its merits have become a virtual unknown quantity.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 6:07 am
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:13 am to lsu2006
quote:
I guess you’d say the same of Joe Burrow right?
Was he a red shirt freshman? No one will say anything about McMillan either.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:20 am to DCtiger1
quote:
Not at all, but no one should expect to get more money, promotions, better working conditions without competing for them. He had a great opportunity here at LSU.
It’s no different than college grads entering the workforce and thinking they should be promoted within 6 months of being hired.
He did compete for them. What do you think he's been doing for the last year?
He knows he isn't seeing the field for 2 years without something unexpected happening. Why not seek a better opportunity to play?
It actually seems like it's an act of humility to take a step backwards before going forward.
Hell, maybe he's seen enough to know that he doesn't trust our staff to develop him properly in these upcoming two years of being a back-up. You can't exactly blame him there - we don't have the best resume of grooming QBs, hence the fact that we rolled out the red carpet for a transfer from a different school.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:28 am to DCtiger1
quote:he's not quitting and he doesn't feel "entitled." He just wants to play.
He’s a freaking Redshirt freshman and he’s already giving up on his team because he feels entitled to start.
Very few athletes in college are content to ride the pine. And QB is one of those few positions where usually only 1 guy gets playing time. It's not WR, LB, or even RB where multiple guys get significant PT.
So if you aren't going to start, I see no problem with transferring to a school where you can actually see the field.
If you were in a job where your goal was to reach a certain level and someone else got promoted to that position and it wasn't going to open up again for years, you'd be justified in finding another job, right? Doesn't make you a quitter or entitled.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:29 am to DCtiger1
Narcisse is a quitter. Pure-and-simple.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:31 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
quote:
Narcisse is a quitter. Pure-and-simple
If we had life-long aspirations of being a college QB and were in a log jam like he is, we'd be doing the same thing. Easy to criticize when its not our career.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 6:34 am
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:33 am to TigerStripes30
quote:there are far more than a handful of freshman and sophomore QBs who start and play very well. There are many, many of them all around the country.
i remember the time when qbs came to college knowing they would only play there jr and/or sr year. now every qb believes they are good enough to start in a top tier power house college football team when in fact there are only a hand full that would even compete and lead there team
The old days of waiting in line 3 or 4 years to get your shot are long gone. Nowadays, the best guys play immediately.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:36 am to JohnnyU
quote:
Fail!
This has nothing to do with entitlement. People change jobs when they perceive that they have better opportunities elsewhere.
He's been on campus for only a year. He had real opportunity hear. His only obstacle to being the starter for 2 years (minimum) was Miles Brennan. At what major conference school will the bar be lower than that?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:42 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
So we feel the same way about Moss Giles and our new starting NT right?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:50 am to DCtiger1
quote:
Was with the program for a year, quit on the team in the middle of fall camp.
Yea but all that free rehab tho
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:54 am to NawlinsTiger9
quote:
Hell, maybe he's seen enough to know that he doesn't trust our staff to develop him properly in these upcoming two years of being a back-up.
If Lowell came out and said this, the rant’s collective dicks would be so fricking rock hard, my god
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