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re: Entitlement culture
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:19 am to moneyg
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:19 am to moneyg
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He's been on campus for only a year. He had real opportunity hear. His only obstacle to being the starter for 2 years (minimum) was Miles Brennan. At what major conference school will the bar be lower than that?
Honestly, he hasn't played a game in three years. His best opportunity for development is playing at the JC level and getting some real playing time.
His competition is not just Brennan. It also includes Peter Parrish when he arrives next year.
He is free to assess his opportunities, weigh the pros and con, then make a decision. That's not entitlement, that's classic problem solving.
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:25 am to DCtiger1
LN isn't good enough to start. 
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:36 am to adamb2151
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It’s a business man
It's not a business for the athletes. They play because they love to. LN is in his second year and bailed like a bitch. Get better and work harder is a lost concept
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:42 am to DCtiger1
quote:This is an extreme exaggeration.
You people that say players like LN are doing what’s best for themselves have created a culture of entitlement for athletes. How many shy away from competition because their mommas or daddies convince them that they are the best and they shouldn’t have to compete.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:42 am to DCtiger1
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He’s a freaking Redshirt freshman and he’s already giving up on his team because he feels entitled to start.
Yea....funny how under Les this was his problem, but now it’s the players fault.
So weird.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:42 am to lsutiger90
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So a graduate transfer who lost his job to a younger player is equivalent to a RS Freshman losing out to a Junior?
Can we get this fricking stickied so we can end the ridiculous argument that the Joe Burrow situation is identical to Narcisse?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:43 am to Howyouluhdat
quote:The majority of them play because it's the best way for them support themselves for the future. The "love of the game" argument is vastly overused by fans.
It's not a business for the athletes. They play because they love to. LN is in his second year and bailed like a bitch. Get better and work harder is a lost concept
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:49 am to DCtiger1
I'm sorry but your argument, as presented, simply is not representative of our culture of entitlement which certainly does exist in this nation.
When an individual makes a decision, that appears to be one more suited to achieving success, that in no way approaches the mindset of entitlement. In fact it's the very opposite.
Entitlement demands without contribution. A football player transferring does not meet that level of failure.
I wish the former Tiger well.
When an individual makes a decision, that appears to be one more suited to achieving success, that in no way approaches the mindset of entitlement. In fact it's the very opposite.
Entitlement demands without contribution. A football player transferring does not meet that level of failure.
I wish the former Tiger well.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 7:53 am
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:56 am to DCtiger1
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Redshirt freshman and he’s already giving up on his team because he feels entitled to start.
You're not wrong.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:58 am to DCtiger1
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DCtiger1
SPOT ON with your op but the little “entitlement/sjw/xbox-HoFcoaches” don’t like facts. They’re part of that entitlement crowd themselves.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:58 am to TigerFan4040
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Redshirt freshman and he’s already giving up on his team because he feels entitled to start.
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You're not wrong.
Every player is entitled to their opinion. If you work at a business and feel that your talents aren't being used properly. I highly doubt that you just sit there and wait for the same lackluster management to finally look at you. CFB is a business. The players are treating it like a business because they know that PT is the most valuable asset that they have.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:04 am to lsu2006
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guess you’d say the same of Joe Burrow right?
Not quite the same boss. He graduated from Ohio State...... Graduated
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:05 am to JBeam
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The majority of them play because it's the best way for them support themselves for the future. The "love of the game" argument is vastly overused by fans.
These two can go hand in hand. Although the ones that become cancers in the locker room and on the field are the ones that play for money over their team and the love of the game. Just the other day Jarvis Landry was seen in a video going off on his WR group. That is a love for the game and there are many more leaders just like him in the league that aren't selfish. Those guys will be known as great players and teammates when its all said and done. I'm sorry you have a bitch mentality when it comes to competing
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:08 am to JBeam
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If you work at a business and feel that your talents aren't being used properly. I highly doubt that you just sit there and wait for the same lackluster management to finally look at you.
Thats whats wrong with our culture. If an intern or first year employee feels the need to leave becuase they havent gotten a raise/promotion/corner office yet, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
You can try and justify it as a "business" all you want, the undeniable fact is that hes a redshirt freshman transferring because he doesn't want to compete at LSU.
For what its worth, I fricking loved LN and couldnt wait to see him on the field this year - he looks like a complete savage.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:08 am to ChewyDante
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Can we get this fricking stickied so we can end the ridiculous argument that the Joe Burrow situation is identical to Narcisse?
Funny you used the word “identical” when literally no one is saying the situations are identical. But following OP’s logic and that of people like you, Burrow also seems to feel “entitled” to a starting spot and “quit” on his program as well. He couldn’t stick it out and battle for the starting spot over a younger guy? Typical millennial!
For you dense fricks, I don’t in any way begrudge Burrow for his move. Like with Narcisse, he’s making a decision that he thinks is best for him. Narcisse has 4 years of eligibility and obviously doesn’t think that LSU is the best place for him. None of us sit in on meetings or practices and none of us know Narcisse or the true nature of his relationship and/or chemistry with our staff or other staffs across the county. Whether or not he’s making a good decision remains to be seen, I just ask that people are consistent with their hand-wringing.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:19 am to DCtiger1
Competition is great but when you have a running clock on your eligibility it’s kinda hard to fault a kid who wants to play. This may be his last chance ever and now he sees 3 years before he would even play at LSU realistically so he wants to go somewhere (like Burrow did) that offers him the chance to start. I don’t blame him for that. I’m always shocked when schools convince multiple QBs to sign in the same class. It never works out for one of them. It’s not entitlement. It’s the desire to play and not watch from the sidelines.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:19 am to lsu2006
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Funny you used the word “identical” when literally no one is saying the situations are identical. But following OP’s logic and that of people like you, Burrow also seems to feel “entitled” to a starting spot and “quit” on his program as well. He couldn’t stick it out and battle for the starting spot over a younger guy? Typical millennial!
For you dense fricks, I don’t in any way begrudge Burrow for his move. Like with Narcisse, he’s making a decision that he thinks is best for him. Narcisse has 4 years of eligibility and obviously doesn’t think that LSU is the best place for him. None of us sit in on meetings or practices and none of us know Narcisse or the true nature of his relationship and/or chemistry with our staff or other staffs across the county. Whether or not he’s making a good decision remains to be seen, I just ask that people are consistent with their hand-wringing.
People have said, over and over again in these threads, "So just like Burrow? herp derp"
The situations are only similar on the face of it in that both are looking to transfer to increase their opportunity for immediate playing time. That's where the similarities end. Burrow is a redshirt junior GRADUATE transfer. He has spent YEARS out of high school growing and developing and lost out to a younger player. His situation would be comparable to McMillan's if anything, not Narcisse's. Funny that someone who made a response post as obtuse as yours would call anyone else "dense."
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:22 am to ChewyDante
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Burrow is a redshirt junior GRADUATE transfer. He has spent YEARS out of high school growing and developing and lost out to a younger player.
Does he not still have two years of eligibility there? Did he not leave because of no guarantee for a starting spot? He could have stuck it out and tried to win the job back, no?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:25 am to ChewyDante
Narcisse hasn’t seen a football field in 3 years. The JUCO route allows him to audition for 129 FBS teams.
What’s wrong with that?
What’s wrong with that?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:28 am to DCtiger1
Those of you struggling to force the word entitlement into this conversation and for the expressed purpose of explaining away a player's decision to move on, don't understand the meaning of the word.
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