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Emery runs with too much upper body violence.

Posted on 11/20/22 at 9:00 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118566 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 9:00 am
IMO that’s the issue with his fumble problems especially on a wet and rainy night. I understand his running style will profit him some nice extra yardage every now and then but his running style leaves the ball exposed too many times leading to fumbles. He needs to secure that ball with two hands when running through the LOS. By doing so it will keep his body from flailing about and exposing the ball to getting easily knocked out of his hands.
Posted by GeauxTigers247
Member since Oct 2019
1563 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 9:02 am to
Posted by lsuohiofan
Alliance,Ohio
Member since Oct 2011
1503 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 9:17 am to
He is probably done as a go to runner. 2 fumbles will get him on the bench as it should.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
1878 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 9:28 am to
If we weren't down to two RB's he would have never seen the field again. I used to defend him but cannot anymore. He is too much of a liability. Late in the game he should be nowhere near the field. Unfortunately with Goodwin out he is a necessary evil although with Williams back he may not see the field again..
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28784 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 9:33 am to
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He needs to secure that ball with two hands when running through the LOS


He was securing the ball with two hands when it was stripped the last time. Inexcusable.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14853 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 9:35 am to
He’s too dynamic to take him off the field. The 20 yard TD run and the 39 yard reception at Auburn, the 30 yard TD reception against Bama, the 7 yard TD vs Florida. You have to go to work this week on the fundamentals and trust your coaching and his ability to accept the coaching. He’s a vital part of this team.
This post was edited on 11/20/22 at 9:36 am
Posted by baytiger11
Member since Jul 2020
1544 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 9:44 am to
Maybe he’s just tucking it wrong or something. Hopefully it’s fixable.

Surprised he’s having issues with frank as RB coach. LSU always preached high and tight to your chest, especially in les miles days. Fumbling is one problem lsu RBs never really had in the past.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164011 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 9:53 am to
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He’s too dynamic to take him off the field. The 20 yard TD run and the 39 yard reception at Auburn, the 30 yard TD reception against Bama, the 7 yard TD vs Florida. You have to go to work this week on the fundamentals and trust your coaching and his ability to accept the coaching. He’s a vital part of this team.

Or you just use him as a pass catcher out of the backfield where he can get into space and not worry about fumbling in traffic. His best plays this season have been catches out of the backfield.
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
9528 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 9:55 am to
He was so much more talented than everyone else coming up through HS that ball security wasn’t a concern.

Four years later, he still hasn’t fixed it.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118566 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 9:55 am to
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Surprised he’s having issues with frank as RB coach.


The times when the offense was getting ready to go back on the field with John as the RB you could see Frank in his ear even before the first fumble. Obviously they know it's a problem even before the fumbles last night.
Posted by Tvilletiger
PVB
Member since Oct 2015
4726 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 9:56 am to
I agree that he runs violent. He is exciting to watch. He is going to have to learn when to let the animal out and when to just be solid and get what is there (preferably for plus yardage)
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28499 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 9:56 am to
Agreed.

Although I would say too upright and out of control. Not sure if violent is the right word
This post was edited on 11/20/22 at 10:00 am
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10128 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 9:58 am to
Where’s the genius that said it wasn’t a problem because he didn’t lose any fumbles?
Posted by profwilson
Member since Jul 2004
867 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 9:59 am to
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You have to go to work this week on the fundamentals and trust your coaching and his ability to accept the coaching.


Don't you think this has already been done? By his coaches in high school, as well as two different college-level coaching staffs? I'm sure that coaches have been working for years to try to fix his fumbling issues. They are the only thing standing between him and greatness. It's extremely frustrating, because the talent is obvious, but it is what it is at this point.
Posted by 75503Tiger
Member since Sep 2015
4176 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 10:01 am to
He needs to spend this off season working on his arms and upper body strength. He is getting it ripped out too often.

Does he have smallish hands?
This post was edited on 11/20/22 at 10:03 am
Posted by LL7
Houston
Member since Mar 2010
3222 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 10:03 am to
He will never again take a meaningful carry at LSU. He can’t be trusted. What a waste of potential.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24259 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 10:05 am to
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You have to go to work this week on the fundamentals and trust your coaching and his ability to accept the coaching.

How can they really trust his ability to accept their coaching when we are going into the last game of the season and he had two fumbles last night and another two close calls last week? I'm sure they have been coaching him hard and pounding ball security in his head. It just doesn't seem to be working.

He has had some huge plays for us this year, so it's a tough situation. I think the coaches just have to be very careful and strategic about what situations they use him in because his fumbling is a huge liability.
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8365 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 10:19 am to
Look, I wish John Emery all the luck in the world, but the fact remains - he can't hold on to the football. Whether it's his running style, loss of concentration, or whatever, he fumbled the ball twice. Not good.

Right now, LSU is one game away from entering the playoffs. Starting with the SEC Championship. We can all agree, Coach Brian Kelly (or any coach) will have to field his best team members if he hopes to win all the marbles.

From here on in, including that game in College Station, the games get more brutal. The SEC is no cakewalk.

Now consider this. John Emery fumbled the ball away twice on IMO 'certain' scoring drives last night. Not good.





This post was edited on 11/20/22 at 10:24 am
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4701 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 10:30 am to
Roger Craig had the same issues in college and became one of the best running backs in the NFL with that upper style and high knees. Hope Emery figures things out if he can come back next year or if an NFL team takes a chance on him.
Posted by 11thACR
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Mar 2012
1652 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 10:33 am to
Seems like Emery has fumbled more than just last night. It will impact his draft status.
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