re: Elite offensive commits and Brady’s future at LSU

He’ll , I could put up 47 on Texas , I kid

3-4 years is more realistic.

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Well, where in the frick has this genius been the last 20, 30 years? Why have we not seen him develop other QBs to even half this level?

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For most of his coaching career, Ensminger was either a QB coach or both a QB coach, OC, and the play-caller.

But it was always for teams out of state. However, he always wanted to return to LSU. So when he was offered the job of being the tight end coach, he jumped on it and moved back to Louisiana.

Anyway, during Miles coaching time at LSU, Miles repeatedly offered Ensminger the OC and QB coaching job. However, Ensminger always turned it down cause he knew whoever was the OC for Les Miles would have to run Les Miles' stone age offense. He also knew that Les Miles always fired those OC about every three years as sacrificial lambs. So because Ensminger couldn't run his own offense under Miles and because he didn't want to become Les Miles' sacrificial lamb, he always turned down the job cause he knew what would inevitably happen.

Nonetheless, Ensminger developed several NFL QBs during his coaching career. He just didn't do it here since he returned to LSU. Anyway, now for his good friend and buddy, Ed O, he is back to doing it again.

One of the big-name QBs Steve Ensminger is responsible for developing is Eric Zeier when he was the OC and QB coach way back when at UGA.

"Zeier finished his college career with 67 school records and 18 Southeastern Conference records. He became the SEC's all-time passing leader with 11,153 yards—a record which has been surpassed only by Peyton Manning and UGA's own David Greene and Aaron Murray. In 1993, his junior season, Zeier threw for 544 yards against Southern Miss, a school record. In 1994, Zeier was named the American Football Coaches Association First-team All-American quarterback. Over his four years at Georgia, Zeier completed 877 of 1461 attempts for 11,153 yards, 67 touchdowns, and 37 interceptions." --Wikipedia

8 years? Don’t think so

3-4 year extension with a raise. Sure that is being considered.

No way Brady locks himself up for 8 years

Yep and we wanted to lock down The Wizard after his stellar first year and then look how fast the decline happened. Brady will have options at the end of the season, but he is still cutting his teeth in the best possible scenario (dream job for a moan his age) and still needs another year or two under his belt.

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More money possibly in longer contract? Just guessing I guess I’m being too optimistic. Jimbo signed for 10 so......

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Did you just compare Joe Brady situation to Jimbo?

These two are not comparable at all. Why would a 30 year old tie himself down for 8 years? If he does REALLY well the next couple of years, he's going to get a much larger offer than LSU can give him. That's just a fact.

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Well, where in the frick has this genius been the last 20, 30 years? Why have we not seen him develop other QBs to even half this level?

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For most of his coaching career, Ensminger was either a QB coach or both a QB coach, OC, and the play-caller.

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Yeah, I was a bit harsh on that. Go back and look at my posts, and I've been more complimentary towards Ensminger.

I've stated all year that I think E is calling the plays, but that Brady has made the playbook.

It's something I'm surprised hasn't happened more places: no offense to E, but he's just an average (at best) coordinator when it comes to schemes.
But an average, experienced playcaller is like a jockey or a racecar driver, he has to feel the game, know when to push it, know when to lay back, etc.
You bring in a guy like Brady here, and it's like you gave Ensminger a better horse in the Derby. One that doesn't just make the field as a longshot, but instead a favorite with a strong finishing burst. Ensminger runs that better than Brady can, because he knows how to push the right buttons at the right time; Brady gets to sit right beside him and learn how to do that.

I guess ego and insecurity would stop a lot of coordinators from playing well with young pups, but Ensminger doesn't care, he didn't really want this on his plate to begin with. So he's grooming Brady for actual gameday work, something that could have taken years otherwise, if ever.

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Sad thing is, our chicken little fanbase is going to run with it like it's fact and give it legs.

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No one is more fearful about or dismissive of LSU's football program than the typical LSU "fan".

Like battered wives, particularly post-Saban. That fricking guy did a number on us, that's for sure.

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They'll know if Burrow did the work, or if he's just a system guy

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Sure, it helps this year with Brady (and, give credit, Ensminger) creating a new offense around him and he has 3 NFL wide receivers (actually more, but the rest are unproven) AND a NFL TE - but did the system pull off the 3rd and 17? Did the system shake off the big hit on the sideline?

Access to film and reasonable vision can tell you Burrow is a special QB.

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Calling him a system guy isn't an insult.
If we were in last year's system, he'd be about like Fromm was last year (not this year); mentioned as an NFL QB, but not a franchise guy.
Baker Mayfield is a system guy. He put up huge numbers and was cocky, and is a little out of place with an average offense. Put him at LSU in 2017, and he doesn't go until the middle rounds.

The offensive recruits, unlike posters on Tigerdroppings, aren't stupid enough to think LSU's offensive success is tied to one assistant coach.