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re: Elephant still in the room: LSU has still NOT DEVELOPED a QB recruit from HS
Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:11 am to Covingtontiger77
Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:11 am to Covingtontiger77
I know folks don’t want to hear experience matters, but it does. Costello has two years of starting exp and it showed. shite, even Kirby went to their back up QB last night (who has game experience) and that changed their entire game around. Kirby claimed it was due to others game time exp. I don’t know how much Brennan will improve but to say he won’t improve with more time....it’s way to early to tell.
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:12 am to 33inNC
quote:wait - so now he is a Miles recruit. Ok. You people crack me up. Les was out O kept him. He played a good bit backing up Danny E in 2017... so I don’t have time to piss with him beyond the next 2 games if he doesn’t tremendously improve and show I’m he can throw receivers open by throwing to spots and display better pocket awareness. Otherwise, run read options with whomever is better.. simple.
Myles Brennan was a Les Miles recruit,
Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:13 am to Covingtontiger77
If Brady had stayed, I think that we could’ve broken that streak. With Ensminger and Linehan, it will be business as usual. Do we even have a dedicated QB coach on staff? Linehan will prove to be a worthless hire and Ensminger is way past his expiration date. Other schools have young, innovative minds on staff. We supposedly have a few, but they are playing second fiddle to dinosaurs.
Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:14 am to Covingtontiger77
I honestly don't like going after QBs who are slow unless they are absolute gunslingers who get rid of the ball fast because you're toast in the SEC if you can't move your QB around or sling all over very quickly. We just have to hope Brennan can get faster with going through progressions and getting rid of the ball.
Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:14 am to Covingtontiger77
Agreed. I said earlier that Brennan looks very much like the old typical LSU QB. LSU is back., as in back to reality where we used to be. Sad and embarrassing that what was being said about us outside the p&g glasses is apparently true. Yesterday was an ugly reality check.
Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:15 am to geauxcoco
quote:he played in 6 games in 2017. Experience? He learned from the best leader and QB in history. Experience? Coming into this season I expect an experienced back-up QB to perform better than this. Don’t give me the off season chaos excuse. Every team has had that. He shite the bed.
I know folks don’t want to hear experience matters, but it does. Costello has two years of starting exp and it showed.
Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:24 am to Tiger1988
If you don’t think Myles is lacking game time exp your crazy. Some QB’s catch on quicker yes, but he is not one of those. And I guarantee one of the TR Fresh right now is not the answer. Shoot, Myles could come back for two more years after this if he wants.
Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:35 am to Covingtontiger77
Brennan 32.2 QBRating and team only had 80 rushing yards.
The offense destroyed the defense in the 1st half with no time of possession.
It was as bad as it looked.
The offense destroyed the defense in the 1st half with no time of possession.
It was as bad as it looked.
Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:40 am to CatfishJohn
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You know nothing about football if you believe this. Relative to his age, time on campus, talent around him, and the opponent, that was really bad.
Well he had the 8th most yards yesterday. So relative to other football players, he did pretty well.
Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:47 am to Tiger1988
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wait - so now he is a Miles recruit. Ok. You people crack me up. Les was out O kept him. He played a good bit backing up Danny E in 2017... so I don’t have time to piss with him beyond the next 2 games if he doesn’t tremendously improve and show I’m he can throw receivers open by throwing to spots and display better pocket awareness. Otherwise, run read options with whomever is better.. simple.
Uh, yes, he was scouted and offered UNDER LES MILES. So what if O "kept" him. Let's let O carve his own path here. Miles CLEARLY had no eye for QB talent, as proven during his time at LSU.
Now, if O does not fix it, then it is on him, but don't come in here and give Miles yet another excuse and pass.
Let's look to the future and hold the staff accountable for what they do to adjust.
Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:47 am to Odysseus32
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Likewise if you watched the defense, despite their inability to get off the field in the 2nd half, they were the reason we were in the game, creating turnovers and scoring TDs. Did I think the defense played well? No, but if they aren't playing lights out in the front 7, we lose that game 51 - 27.
So despite the fact that they were ineffective, they were effective? The defense could not make stops, MSU kept scoring and we lost the game. They scored 44 points people. Our QB did not look up the task of overcoming it, but that is a lot to ask of any QB. And if you ask me his worst play was in the 1st quarter so I’m not exactly ready axe him and roll with a true freshman.
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Costello will rarely have a game this season in which he tosses it for less than 400 yards. That is the way Leach runs his offense.
Yeah ok.
Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:49 am to Covingtontiger77
Rohan, herb tyler, Matt Flynn is all I got in modern era
Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:52 am to 33inNC
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BUT- Myles Brennan was a Les Miles recruit, there is hope that O breaks the trend of bad QB recruiting from the get go
Myles Brennen
Lowell Narcisse
Peter Parish
TJ Finley
Max Johnson
In four years those are O’s QB recruits out of high school.
I don’t know if Miles-esque is a thing, but that seems pretty Miles-esque.
Not signing a QB on NSD in 2018 has to be one of the more egregious errors that could have happened under O’s watch.
He obviously lucked out with the GOAT QB falling into his lap from Meyer’s QB tree later that offseason, but not having another prospect be prepped to step up wasted such a golden opportunity that Burrow gave him. The luxury of time to prevent QBs from being forced into action before they were ready like they were so often were under Miles.
If Brennen isn’t ready, and perhaps even worse that the coaches couldn’t SEE that he wasn’t, now TJ or Max get Lee’d and Harris’d their freshman year and we are right back where we were with Miles and where we would have been without Burrow.
It really is such a deflating thought after the luxury that a Meyer grad transfer gave us to fix the QB pipeline that was broken for so long.
This post was edited on 9/27/20 at 11:59 am
Posted on 9/27/20 at 1:10 pm to 33inNC
quote:. o took over long before the recruiting cycle had ended and at one point when Miles left Brennan was wavering big time with Lowell commitment (or one of the others). Anyway, O as recruiting coordinator worked his arse off to keep him.
Uh, yes, he was scouted and offered UNDER LES MILES. So what if O "kept" him. Let's let O carve his own path here. Miles CLEARLY had no eye for QB talent, as proven during his time at LSU.
Stick to the facts.
The only consistency has been Ensminger and O on offense. For years we bitched and moaned about Miles not changing the offense to match the skill set of the QB. In 2019, that happened (some in 2018 at the end of the season). Brennan is Ensmingers guy. Without question as he has stated himself to being close to Steve.
The difference in 1 season was Brady. PERIOD. Say whatever you want about this bull shite and that, Brady knew how to break defenses down and attack like Payton.
Everything else is fricking excuses.
This post was edited on 9/27/20 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 9/27/20 at 1:36 pm to Damone
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ALL IS WELL
This post was edited on 9/27/20 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 9/27/20 at 1:40 pm to TheDeathValley
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When was the last time outside of Burrow where we had a QB throw over 300 yards?
When was the last time we had a QB make 46 attempts?
?
Posted on 9/27/20 at 1:42 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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f Brady had stayed, I think that we could’ve broken that streak. With Ensminger and Linehan, it will be business as usual. Do we even have a dedicated QB coach on staff? Linehan will prove to be a worthless hire and Ensminger is way past his expiration date. Other schools have young, innovative minds on staff. We supposedly have a few, but they are playing second fiddle to dinosaurs.
Linehan needs to go. Callaway needs to be promoted to OC.
Posted on 9/27/20 at 1:46 pm to Odysseus32
Not to mention that same D gave myles 4 additional turnovers to work with. Interesting.
Posted on 9/27/20 at 1:52 pm to Covingtontiger77
said this yesterday a few times
the last QB LSU developed was Matt Flynn, by Jimbo Fisher
the last QB LSU developed was Matt Flynn, by Jimbo Fisher
Posted on 9/27/20 at 1:55 pm to 33inNC
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Uh, yes, he was scouted and offered UNDER LES MILES. So what if O "kept" him. Let's let O carve his own path here. Miles CLEARLY had no eye for QB talent, as proven during his time at LSU.
Now, if O does not fix it, then it is on him, but don't come in here and give Miles yet another excuse and pass.
Let's look to the future and hold the staff accountable for what they do to adjust.
I’m sorry orgeron has been head coach long enough to get a QB from high school and have him ready for this season. Brennan’s success and failures and/or a failure to recruit to replace him is on orgeron. I also don’t know why we don’t have a dedicated qb coach
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