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Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:23 pm to ranger350
quote:cool. The SEC was total shite this year and we still ended up with 4 losses
I think that he did better than that this year so what's your point !
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:24 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:I'll add calling plays from previous staff's offense.
they tout how the offense looked in 2016 when we were playing triple digit run defenses
So far '16 was a step back from '15, and '17 another step back from those 2.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:25 pm to dukke v
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Your schedule aregument is to old now... No matter what his record ended up being you would have brought what the SOS ENDED up being....
for the last 5 years you've constantly argued that what we did against inferior teams was meaningless. now that Miles is gone you want to change that. just another example of your hypocrisy. you dismissed the 2015 offense because they were stopped by bama but now that doesn't matter.
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That is NOT O's fault
NO ONE SAID IT WAS. LOSING 4 GAMES AGAINST A shite SCHEDULE ISNT GOOD AND IS A REFLECTION OF COACHING.
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As I have said on A number of occasions you will use ANYTHING
I use objective facts.
deal with it. stop being a fricking hypocrite and we will get long fine. also stop worrying about what another grown man posts. I never respond to anything you post. not once. do you know why? because I don't give a frick about what you post.
ed orgeron is a bad coach. deal with it.
You shite all over miles for 3 loss seasons yet you said a 4 loss 2017 as a pretty good record.
you once again try to turn every thread into Rickdaddy thread. stop following me around.its pathetic.
we played a shite schedule in 2017 nd lost 4 games. deal with it.
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:35 pm to Catman88
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When you lose to every team but 1 with a pulse on that schedule and ruin that win with a loss to a team that doesnt belong on the same field with you SOS doesnt matter.
you have to realize that your dealing with the biggest hypocrite when it comes to lsu coaches. he actually said this year was a pretty good record.
he swears he hates the O hire but then gets upset anytime anyone mentions any facts about O.
he once told me when I bring up O's ole miss tenure I'm making a personal attacks towards O.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:36 pm to Tiger0610
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Not 10 wins; don’t care
That’s the standard we claimed with the prior regime
the same people that bashed the last regime for 3 loss seasons are perfectly fine with the new regime having 4 loss seasons. it's pretty telling
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:39 pm to rbdallas
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I am also, but sub 10 does not mean a firing, except for idiots who know nothing about reality....
and does not equate to 4
Then what was the purpose to move on from Les? For more of the same or worse?
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We are playing 3 teams that were in one way or another involved in the National Championship picture. Probably one of the strongest schedules in a few years.
And this proves why LSU needs a competent proven coach at the helm.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:41 pm to Catman88
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When you lose to every team but 1 with a pulse on that schedule and ruin that win with a loss to a team that doesnt belong on the same field with you SOS doesnt matter.
I am not trying to defend O at all.. The schedule ENDED UP SUCKING... But at the time we lost to MSU they seemed pretty good... When we beat AU they seemed pretty good... TROY = their is zero excuse... FLA ended up like crap but wasn't that bad A team when we beat them... Now when you get on the back end of the schedule the revords started to show... We looked pretty good after the Bama game no matyer the opponents record... We beat those teams like we should have... Now the Bowl gme was terrible... We had that game and O blew it by taking A FG instead of going for the win... But ND was A pretty good team...
NOW you can bash O all you want about how his record looks AFTER the season for who we beat... That's easy...
So tell me... How hard was the 2008 schedule and what were the results...........
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:51 pm to dukke v
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We looked pretty good after the Bama game no matyer the opponents record...
beating inferior teams is meaningless.
Do I have to remind you of your own stances for the last 5 years?
losing 4 games while playing a shite SOS is a reflection of coaching.
for God's sake you tried to use lsu getting audibles from the sideline as proof for bad coaching yet mentioning an objective fact is getting old?
just admit it. you're fine with lsu losing 4 games as long as it's not miles.
for 5 years you used your opinion to shite on miles and now have the audacity to have problem with posters using objective facts about a lsu coach?
it's the epitome of hypocrisy.
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So tell me... How hard was the 2008 schedule and what were the results...........
you mean the year where lsu played 4 sec teams that finished in the top 15?
you mean the season after winning a national title?
you mean the season where we won 2 of the last 3 sec west titles?
yeah 2008 schedule was way harder
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:53 pm to nitwit
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There is no assurance that the 2019 class will buy into Da Coach O sufficiently to save his tookus . There is a huge load of La. talent for the taking by somebody...
I’m just telling you some of these guys will be verbally committed to us and some will be deciding between us and Bama. It could be similar to 5 for 5 with Orgeron pitching the idea that if he is fired all those recruits will go to Bama. I don’t think he will say that specifically, I think his PR machine will put it out there
And, in psychology, people usually look to avoid a loss rather than a chance at a moderate gain. So, Alleva and the PR machine will convince the soccer moms that one more year of O is better than losing our states best recruiting class to Bama.
***I don’t think any of this is true. I just think this is how it will be pitched to the masses***
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:56 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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you dismissed the 2015 offense because they were stopped by bama but now that doesn't matter.
What happened against Ole Miss and Arkansas?????
Or in 2014 when they went to Arkie and got shut out by A team that was horrible the whole SEC seaon until LSU went ther???
NOW THOSE are facts you NEVER want to talk about when it comes to Miles....
What about the Bowl loss to ND under Miles??? Did he not have more talent than O had on this years team that lost to ND???
AGAIN.. You NEVER want to bring up negative facts about Miles, Yet you will come FULL BARREL when finding anything FACTUAL aginst O..........
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:06 pm to dukke v
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FLA ended up like crap but wasn't that bad A team when we beat them.
Florida was a bad team when we beat them they beat UK by one point and barely beat Vandy and UT (at least we didnt know how bad UT was at the time) plus we needed a missed extra point to even beat them.
Not sure what the Malveto experiment season has to do with last season.
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:11 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Ban bet?
If LSU goes 7-5 or worse in 2018, Ed Orgeron will not be the coach in 2019. I will take that ban bet in a heart beat.
If LSU goes 7-5 or worse in 2018, Ed Orgeron will not be the coach in 2019. I will take that ban bet in a heart beat.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:11 pm to rbdallas
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a "pretty" 7-5 will season not get him fired
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:16 pm to WaWaWeeWa
2 years tops. Unless we make the playoffs.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:17 pm to Powerman
Just like Chavis salvaged Mikes’ job
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:19 pm to ibleedprplngld
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Ban bet? If LSU goes 7-5 or worse in 2018, Ed Orgeron will not be the coach in 2019. I will take that ban bet in a heart beat.
Done.
7-5 will bring him back another year when the narrative is that he just needs time to close the best instate recruiting class of the decade.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:27 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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beating inferior teams is meaningless
At least O is beating them like he should instead of barley beting Mcnesse 29-10....
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losing 4 games while playing shite SOS is reflection of coaching.
Losing 5 games in 2008 with THAT kind of talent is A total fail...FACT...
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just admit it. you're fine with lsu losing 4 games as long as it's not miles.
Why would I do that.. If you haven't noticed I have bashed O for EVERY LOSS he has had while coaching LSU.. Even the FLA game two years ago.. But YOU only see what you want to see...
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for 5 years you used your opinion to shite on miles
Ok let me get this straight... Miles has had A TON of talent the last five years and his best finish was like 15 at the end of the year???? CORRECT???
Miles UNDERACHIEVED the last 5 years and there is ZERO way to look at it any other way... I have praised Miles A TON of times.. AGAIN you won't ever post where I hae because you just won't do your homework... But whatever.. MEDIOCRE is what LSU became after 1-9-12.. That is FACT.... WITH ALL that talent 15 IS Mediocre........
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you mean the year where lsu played 4 sec teams that finished in the top 15?
And got DESTROYD BY ALL OF THEM... WTG LES... That recruiting was going well for that year... BTW That would be the 1st year that he had ALL his own recruits.....
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you mean the season after winning a national title?
Going from A NC to 8-5 is terrible... Shows what kind of player development was all about..............
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you mean the season where we won 2 of the last 3 sec west titles?
With Sabans players..................
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yeah 2008 schedule was way harder
Not that much harder.. Yet the team was SUPPOSED to be more talented because of ALL that great recruiting Miles did on his own.... REMEMBER... The 2008 team was ALL on Miles as far as HIS players...
NOW STFU...............
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:29 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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7-5 will bring him back another year when the narrative is that he just needs time to close the best instate recruiting class of the decade.
If he’s 8-4 going into the bowl game, he’ll at least get to coach the bowl to be sure they get through the early signing period. If he loses the bowl game, he’s gone. A 5 lose season will not be tolerated. You have no idea how close he was to being canned after this season. If it weren’t for a $12 mil buyout, he would’ve been.
Furthermore, no season in the last decade will show just how far the gap between LSU and the elites of the SEC is getting like this coming season. There’s a very real possibility that they go 6-6. The schedule is just that brutal. You have to play the 2 teams that were in the college football playoff. 2 that were in their conference championship in Auburn and Miami. And you have to play Florida with competent coach in the swamp and AtM with Fisher at the helm. If they lose big to Georgia and Bama, 4 loses might get him canned regardless. The gap will have gotten too big at that point.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:30 pm to dukke v
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beating inferior teams is meaningless
At least O is beating them like he should instead of barley beting Mcnesse 29-10....
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, but just an impartial observer pointing out that this isn't really a good argument after losing to Troy.
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