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re: Eason will be a top 10 pick

Posted on 3/3/22 at 9:38 am to
Posted by kadillak
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 9:38 am to
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Yet, he is only playing 24 minutes per game. That may not even be in the top 20 in the SEC.

Part of that is on him with the fouls. But there is no reason your best player should be 5th...on the team!..in minutes played.

Well fouls is pretty much the only reason for that.

He's fouled out of 6 games now:

18 minutes against Arkansas
20 minutes against Missouri
13 minutes against Kentucky
29 minutes against Tennessee
7 minutes against Florida
26 minutes against Auburn

Then he had the first A&M matchup where he couldn't stay on the floor in the second half because of cramps.

Eason is basically looking at 27, 28 minutes/game if he stays out of foul trouble and doesn't have the cramp game which would fall right in line with the rest of the starters and reduce Efton's minutes as a result.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 9:45 am to
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but he won't sniff the lottery picks.


Posted by kadillak
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 9:47 am to
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Chet, Ivey, Jabari, Johnny Davis, Keegan, Sharpe, and Banchero and maybe TyTy but he’s made of glass. Those are the only players I can realistically see going ahead of Eason.

Yeah, don't see him passing up Chet, Banchero, Jabari, Ivey, Davis, Sharpe, Griffin. I think Tari could fall anywhere after that but that next group is large and will come down to workouts, interviews, philosophy: Murray, Tari, Sochan, K Brown, TyTy, Mathurin, Duren, Baldwin, Marjon, Jovic, plus or minus a couple of risers and fallers. So basically anywhere from 8 on back.
Posted by TexasTiger88
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Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 9:49 am to
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Chet, Ivey, Jabari, Johnny Davis, Keegan, Sharpe, and Banchero and maybe TyTy but he’s made of glass. Those are the only players I can realistically see going ahead of Eason.


Griffin, Duren, Mathurin and Hardy will also all be picked before him. That’s 12 right there.
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 9:50 am to
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He needs to stop jacking up 3s
He did have a questionable 3pointer at the beginning of the shot clock when we were up in the later part of the game, but other than that, he has free reign to do whatever he wants on offense.
Posted by Lester Earl
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279252 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 9:52 am to
I don’t think he goes inside the top 10 but 10-14 is the sweet spot. There aren’t 14 better prospects
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 9:53 am to
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He needs to stop jacking up 3s

He’s become a pretty good 3 point shooter. The net barely moved on the last 3 he hit last night.
Posted by S
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 10:02 am to
Good morning my fellow Bielsa widow
Posted by kadillak
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 10:03 am to
Yeah, Tari is 43% from 3 in conference play. Wade said that Tari was a much better shooter than he had shown early in the season and he was right.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 10:03 am to
Those numbers are crazy from last night.

If only he could’ve played closer to 30 minutes
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 10:14 am to
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Well fouls is pretty much the only reason for that.

He's fouled out of 6 games now:

18 minutes against Arkansas
20 minutes against Missouri
13 minutes against Kentucky
29 minutes against Tennessee
7 minutes against Florida
26 minutes against Auburn

Then he had the first A&M matchup where he couldn't stay on the floor in the second half because of cramps.

Eason is basically looking at 27, 28 minutes/game if he stays out of foul trouble and doesn't have the cramp game which would fall right in line with the rest of the starters and reduce Efton's minutes as a result.


But even in games where he is not fouling out (since the first 3 SEC games of the season) he's still only playing about 25-26 minutes.

He played 26 minutes vs. Arkansas in the first game (3 fouls) Loss

He played 26 @ TCU (3 fouls) Loss

He played 23 vs. Vandy (3 fouls) Loss

He played 26 @ A&M (3 fouls) Win

He played 25 @ South Carolina (3 fouls) Loss

He hasn't fouled out of every game in SEC play. But he's only played 30+ in 3 SEC games this season: Game 1 vs. Tennessee (24 points, 12 rebounds); @ Alabama (26 points, 10 rebounds, 2 blocks, 2 steals); Ole Miss (16 points, 5 rebounds).

Yes, there is NO QUESTION, foul issues have hurt. But I don't know if most LSU fans realize just how much of an efficiency monster this guy has been...on both ends of the floor. I think you could make a very strong argument his is the best all around player Wade has ever had at LSU. If/when he gets in foul trouble you have to adjust. But on nights where he isn't he's just too damn good to have him unnecessarily spend anywhere from 4-6 minutes on the bench.

For a little bit of a comparison, Eason is averaging 1 more foul per game (in SEC play) than Trendon Watford did last season. Yet, Watford played 35 mpg. Naturally, the fouls are going to keep Eason's minutes lower than that. But 10 minutes per game lower seems unnecessary.
This post was edited on 3/3/22 at 10:22 am
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 10:19 am to
His production is great but the dude fouls out every game.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 10:28 am to
Weren't you the guy that said this is a final four team?
Posted by kadillak
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 10:47 am to
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He hasn't fouled out of every game in SEC play. But he's only played 30+ in 3 SEC games this season: Game 1 vs. Tennessee (24 points, 12 rebounds); @ Alabama (26 points, 10 rebounds, 2 blocks, 2 steals); Ole Miss (16 points, 5 rebounds).

Yes, there is NO QUESTION, foul issues have hurt. But I don't know if most LSU fans realize just how much of an efficiency monster this guy has been...on both ends of the floor. I think you could make a very strong argument his is the best all around player Wade has ever had at LSU. If/when he gets in foul trouble you have to adjust. But on nights where he isn't he's just too damn good to have him unnecessarily spend anywhere from 4-6 minutes on the bench.

For a little bit of a comparison, Eason is averaging 1 more foul per game (in SEC play) than Trendon Watford did last season. Yet, Watford played 35 mpg. Naturally, the fouls are going to keep Eason's minutes lower than that. But 10 minutes per game lower seems unnecessary.

For sure, the more minutes Eason plays, the better chance we have at winning. The games you listed pretty much fall in line with his and the other starters' season averages though. I *think* Wade is being very careful about minutes this season and it has cost us a few games. I believe he's trying to correct (maybe overcorrect) how worn down we were at the end of the season and end of games last year with Cam, Smart, Wat all at 35 MPG last year which wasn't ideal.

Looking at the minutes distribution in the SEC, LSU's starters (which I count Eason as) fall in line with Auburn, Tennessee, and Kentucky's guys when you factor in injuries. Arkansas has leaned on their starters heaviest this year.

Maybe it's a glaring mistake by Wade that cost us a slightly higher seed for no reason or maybe he's playing the long game and hoping fresher legs this year will push us further in March.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 10:57 am to
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Weren't you the guy that said this is a final four team?


Sure was, said they definitely had what it takes to make it and I still believe that. Defense travels.
Posted by SCP
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 11:02 am to
It has been several weeks since I looked at around 6 or 7 mock drafts from so called drafting "experts." In only one of these drafts was Eason in the second round. In the remainder, he was between pick 14 to pick 30 in the first round. The 24 pick seemed to be where most of the picks centered.

It is early. There will need to be NBA evaluations. But, if the odds were even money on Eason being a top 10 pick or not, I would take the not!
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28656 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 11:07 am to
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Maybe it's a glaring mistake by Wade that cost us a slightly higher seed for no reason or maybe he's playing the long game and hoping fresher legs this year will push us further in March.


Perhaps. But it didn't appear LSU was worn down in the NCAAT last season. They just didn't defend worth a shite...all season. This team defends.

Last night Wade had to adjust because of Eason's foul trouble. That happens. But losing some games when it doesn't appear you maximized your best player is a tough pill to swallow. All season the rotations have been a bit curious. In game one vs. Arkansas Fudge had 13 points, 4 rebounds, a block and 2 steals. Last night he didn't play at all (despite no indication he was injured). It is appears Wade predetermines he's only going to play a certain 8, maybe 9, guys per game and is not going to deviate from that plan. What good is having depth if you don't want to use it?

IMO, unless there is an injury we don't know about, O'Neal, Reid and Fudge should be getting roughly equal minutes based upon in-game matchups. None of those 3 are "complete" players, but they all have certain skills that can help you win games.

My hope is that if/when LSU gets to the NCAAT there are no more artificial minutes restrictions anymore. Start Reid if you want. But plan to get Eason in ASAP. No team has ever made a big run in March by choosing not to maximize their star player. If you have to (and can) play him 30+ minutes, DO IT!!! March is where potential first rounders become lottery picks. Steph Curry didn't get picked 7th because he killed the likes of Appalachian St. It's because he put on one of the best shows ever in the NCAA Tournament
Posted by speckledtrout82
Eunice
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 11:12 am to
Just don't see it. Hopefully he comes back for another year
Posted by bengaltiger20
Member since Jul 2021
45 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:53 pm to
Ok wow you were serious.

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Name the 9 players better….



I don't have to. Every mock draft that I saw names much more than 9 better.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279252 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:55 pm to
This is from yesterday


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