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re: Don’t be fooled by what TAF publically states about ticket renewals!
Posted on 5/4/18 at 3:44 pm to Tiger Ree
Posted on 5/4/18 at 3:44 pm to Tiger Ree
This can’t be stated enough. You’re an idiot.
It’s not the Eaux model and no one but the dumbest of propagandized followers and employees of Ed Orgeron would call it that.
Delegation only works if the person doing the delegating possess the foresight, intelligence, and evaluation skills necessary to surround themselves with other highly successful and driven people proven to be capable of accomplishing the tasks given to them at a high level. Ed Orgeron delegates to his buddies that no one wanted to hire in the capacity he has hired them.
So, go on record right now as saying that everyone in football is wrong and only Ed Orgeron has the foresight and knowledge necessary to see the potential of these people and place them in these positions or STFU.
You won’t and are simply once again speaking about things you have little understanding of simply to push your pro O agenda for your own benefit.
It’s not the Eaux model and no one but the dumbest of propagandized followers and employees of Ed Orgeron would call it that.
Delegation only works if the person doing the delegating possess the foresight, intelligence, and evaluation skills necessary to surround themselves with other highly successful and driven people proven to be capable of accomplishing the tasks given to them at a high level. Ed Orgeron delegates to his buddies that no one wanted to hire in the capacity he has hired them.
So, go on record right now as saying that everyone in football is wrong and only Ed Orgeron has the foresight and knowledge necessary to see the potential of these people and place them in these positions or STFU.
You won’t and are simply once again speaking about things you have little understanding of simply to push your pro O agenda for your own benefit.
This post was edited on 5/4/18 at 3:48 pm
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Posted on 5/4/18 at 3:50 pm to ibleedprplngld
Anyone who thinks the demand for tickets is what it was 5-10 years ago is just silly.
Product on the field has gone down. We were a consistent Top 10 team from about 2002-2014 (off some years but for the most part we were feared / respected by most other teams). Now, we are a Top 20-30 program. The slide is real.
Frustration over leadership whether its the AD or the head coach doesn't help tickets sales.
This is the most depressed Tiger fan base I've seen since the end of the DiNardo era.
Our last Head Coach still hasn't landed a new gig and the current one (if we fire him will not be employed by another Power 5 program as the head man either)....
Fire Will Wade, Beth Torina or DD and see how long they are looking for similar positions? Even as frustrated as baseball freaks are about Paul M, how long would it really take him to land a very good head coaching job if we canned him today?
Product on the field has gone down. We were a consistent Top 10 team from about 2002-2014 (off some years but for the most part we were feared / respected by most other teams). Now, we are a Top 20-30 program. The slide is real.
Frustration over leadership whether its the AD or the head coach doesn't help tickets sales.
This is the most depressed Tiger fan base I've seen since the end of the DiNardo era.
Our last Head Coach still hasn't landed a new gig and the current one (if we fire him will not be employed by another Power 5 program as the head man either)....
Fire Will Wade, Beth Torina or DD and see how long they are looking for similar positions? Even as frustrated as baseball freaks are about Paul M, how long would it really take him to land a very good head coaching job if we canned him today?
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:02 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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Delegation only works if the person doing the delegating possess the foresight, intelligence, and evaluation skills necessary to surround themselves with other highly successful and driven people proven to be capable of accomplishing the tasks given to them at a high level. Ed Orgeron delegates to his buddies that no one wanted to hire in the capacity he has hired them.
Got darn fellow poster person, you ever heard of commas, periods and other punctuation marks?
We are talking football here not running a international conglomerate. Damn !!!!
Are you pissed LSU has hired support staff?
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So, go on record right now as saying that everyone in football is wrong and only Ed Orgeron has the foresight and knowledge necessary to see the potential of these people and place them in these positions or STFU.
Yeah, I think players kind of make the difference in football. You think Rashard Lawrence, Greedy, Devin White, Ed Alexander, Grant Delpit, Breiden Fehoko, etc, etc, etc won't be good?
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You won’t and are simply once again speaking about things you have little understanding of simply to push your pro O agenda for your own benefit.
Yeah, sorry you hate LSU. I'll try to cool it on talking about the LSU program and the good things to come.
SIKE. BITCH !!!!
aint gonna happen, go on with your anti LSU agenda though, I enjoy haters. It's what makes all this site interesting !!!
Maybe LSU will suck and you can pump your chest among your buddies who pull for whatever team you pull for. Good luck brother or sister. Nothing but love from me.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:18 pm to IAHTiger
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Anyone who thinks the demand for tickets is what it was 5-10 years ago is just silly.
Is that true just of LSU? Look around.
Was the demand seemingly greater 10/20 years ago simply a function of lower availability. For example what is the true demand for an LSU/Ole Miss ticket? If TS holds 70,000 and is filled is that a greater demand than if TS holds 100,000 and the attendance is 70,000?
What has the net effect of demand been altered by television?
We don't live in a bubble (as much as some of you seem to) and in person attendance is down practically everywhere. It is a common complaint all across the country.
You might not be want to be too quick to assign something to your particular bias without looking around.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:25 pm to Gray Tiger
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Is that true just of LSU? Look around.
Don't try to use the FACT that attendance across the nation is down for all of football to make an argument. What the hell is wrong with you?..
The traffic leaving the games has nothing to do with the games now being available on HD TV has nothing to do with the national decline in attendance.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:29 pm to Tiger Ree
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HD TV has nothing to do with the national decline in attendance.
Ok, then what is the reason?
Why is Munoz making 20,000 more than Steve Kragthorpe who has a much more qualifying resume?
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:33 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Why is Munoz making 20,000 more than Steve Kragthorpe who has a much more qualifying resume?
It's a Louisiana thing you would never understand.
Steve has an illness that prevents him from being able to work.
LSU is keeping him on staff to reward his loyalty to the program.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:39 pm to Gray Tiger
Agree that there are other factors causing decline across college football. That wasn't my point. But, LSU certainly ain't what it was from 2001-2014 (rough time frame before you blast me for being off a damn year). LSU's on the field product and several people (of which I'm one) complete lack of trust in the leadership of the AD has had an impact on the demand for tickets and donations. From my end, I'm still renewing (I have 10 tickets and 2 parking passes). I go no matter what. But, I'm in the minority.
I had more people ask me for tickets 5-10 years ago than I had tickets. LSU football was really fun and not just for a football freak like me. It was an event. Now, not so much. Are other schools dealing with this? Yes but LSU football ain't most other schools.
I still think if you alleviate all the traffic problems, get great food at cheap prices and have awesome free WiFi for the millennials to stream there will still be an issue with attendance. But, it would be much less of an issue with LSU winning and many of the constant things people bitch about as fans eliminated/reduced.
I had more people ask me for tickets 5-10 years ago than I had tickets. LSU football was really fun and not just for a football freak like me. It was an event. Now, not so much. Are other schools dealing with this? Yes but LSU football ain't most other schools.
I still think if you alleviate all the traffic problems, get great food at cheap prices and have awesome free WiFi for the millennials to stream there will still be an issue with attendance. But, it would be much less of an issue with LSU winning and many of the constant things people bitch about as fans eliminated/reduced.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:39 pm to Tiger Ree
This is sad and you should feel bad.
Continue to deflect and not respond, Derrick.
LSU is, in fact, an international conglomerate and why people like me are attempting to stop the horrible and incompetent leadership from damaging our brand any further. If you can’t see the dangers associated with letting Ed Orgeron and his buddies control, market, and operate the most profitable aspect of the LSU conglomerate, well, that’s the fricking point, I guess. You don’t see the danger and why people like you and Ed Orgeron should never be tasked with such responsibility. It’s why Syracuse declined to interview him and why he was an unemployed former D Line coach before Les Miles hired him.
You benefit directly, in the form of a paycheck, from the continued employment of Ed Orgeron and Joe Alleva. That is why you so diligently cherry pick and propagandize seemingly positive news out of the program, while ignoring all of the other overwhelming negative news surrounding the program. I would respect you a lot more if you quit pretending to be something you’re not.
Continue to deflect and not respond, Derrick.
LSU is, in fact, an international conglomerate and why people like me are attempting to stop the horrible and incompetent leadership from damaging our brand any further. If you can’t see the dangers associated with letting Ed Orgeron and his buddies control, market, and operate the most profitable aspect of the LSU conglomerate, well, that’s the fricking point, I guess. You don’t see the danger and why people like you and Ed Orgeron should never be tasked with such responsibility. It’s why Syracuse declined to interview him and why he was an unemployed former D Line coach before Les Miles hired him.
You benefit directly, in the form of a paycheck, from the continued employment of Ed Orgeron and Joe Alleva. That is why you so diligently cherry pick and propagandize seemingly positive news out of the program, while ignoring all of the other overwhelming negative news surrounding the program. I would respect you a lot more if you quit pretending to be something you’re not.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:39 pm to Tiger Ree
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It's a Louisiana thing you would never understand.
So you are saying you are full of shite and have no real theory behind your statement?
Louisiana thing? Where in the frick do you think I live? born? raised? Season ticket holder here for 21 years. Dude I have tried to read your stuff and give you the benefit of the doubt.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:52 pm to Ponchy Tiger
You won't get a straight answer. If you want to know what he really believes about Orgeron and the state of our program, consider the fact that he won't ever give a prediction for the season record.
Sometimes what people don't say is more telling than what they do.
Sometimes what people don't say is more telling than what they do.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 5:00 pm to The Pirate King
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You and your friends are in the 5% that didn’t renew. Congrats
So am I, smart arse...LONG time season ticket holder...consistent donor...both have ended. I am sick of the one-sided relationship that I have had with LSU in recent years. They want my money but dont keep their end of the bargain with the product I get in return...I dont stay in deals structured like that...the exodus is real.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 5:08 pm to plbjr
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“I am no longer going to support an athletic program that strives for mediocrity and doesn’t have the desire to be the best!”
The sign in the Dallas Cowboys’ meeting room certainly applies to the state of LSU football, from Alexander to Alleva and on down:
You get what you DEMAND
You ENCOURAGE what you tolerate
Posted on 5/4/18 at 5:33 pm to Tigahs24Seven
It’s real. They know it. Hence the need for an article proclaiming the opposite. It’s an F you from Joe Alleva and Co to people like you and me. I didn’t cancel all of my tickets. I had 24 total. I now have 4 and greatly reduced my donations.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 6:53 pm to TigerCliff777
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he might know more than the money boys that only know one thing - give me what I want !!!!
Sooooo, how far do you think LSU football can go without the “money boys”?
Posted on 5/4/18 at 7:25 pm to IAHTiger
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. But, it would be much less of an issue with LSU winning and many of the constant things people bitch about as fans eliminated/reduced.
I admire the fact that you believe there is something that would make LSU fans bitch less.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 7:27 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
My $$$ will no loner support TAF & LSU Athletics! After 36 years, I am one of those not renewing my season tickets. I am sad to do so and sad I will not be able to donate the unused ones, but the current administration can &%$^#@! I will still attend some of the games by buying 1/2 price tickets, fly in, stay in hotels and feed the gang, but not on a regular basis as before.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 10:07 pm to plbjr
Fake News....them or you? 
Posted on 5/5/18 at 4:13 am to AshLSU
Shocked?
Yea sure kid.
Yea sure kid.
Posted on 5/5/18 at 5:58 am to EXPLAYER
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Thank you for the down votes you miserable idiots.
Since you’re all worried about downvotes, have two more, shithead.
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