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re: Does it occur to some of you that Nuss might be hurt worse than being told
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:13 am to mike4lsu
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:13 am to mike4lsu
It has occurred to me but I assume Brad Nussmeier is aware of the situation and has significant input. I'm really curious just what he's saying in private as he watches his son's draft status nosedive week after week.
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Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:25 am to mike4lsu
I dont give a shite what is wrong with him, get him off the field.
We wont win another game against a decent team with him at QB. Its too easy to scheme against him if he is the QB. He wont run and he isnt accurate. Thats easy at this level. A bad OM defense just showed everyone how to do it.
We wont win another game against a decent team with him at QB. Its too easy to scheme against him if he is the QB. He wont run and he isnt accurate. Thats easy at this level. A bad OM defense just showed everyone how to do it.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:31 am to mike4lsu
Nuss isnt as good as most of you think. Check out his stats vs SEC teams. He had more Ints than TDs last year until Vandy. His completion percentage didn't get above 56% until Vandy and his deep balls was awful until Oklahoma.
I begged yall to not put the pressure on the kid to make rhe next step since Joe and Jayden played behind awful OLs and I knew Nuss was doing the exact opposite. But the Rant with its crowd think is always smarter.
I begged yall to not put the pressure on the kid to make rhe next step since Joe and Jayden played behind awful OLs and I knew Nuss was doing the exact opposite. But the Rant with its crowd think is always smarter.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:31 am to mike4lsu
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5th year seniors show the most improvement.
Jamarcus Russel looked elite as 4th year senior in 2006.
Matt Flynn looked elite in 2007 as a 5th year senior.
Jarrett Lee & Jordan Jefferson were better QBs in 2011 than in 2008.
Zach Metenberger was elite in 2013.
Joe Burrow and Jayden Daniels were Heisman winners in their 5th year campaigns and they were transfers.
Garrett Nussmeier is too good a QB to regress in his 5th year (4 years with the same QB coach, HC and system)....Something does not add up.
He is hurt worse, than the coaches are telling primarily for his safety and protection.
In 2018 Alabama blanked us 29-0 in Tiger stadium. That was Joe Burrow's only loss as a starting QB in Tiger stadium. Much later we learnt that Joe Burrow had not practices all week and was limited.
Excellent point.
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Sometimes players have to be protected and less needs to be said about the extent of their injuries......This is what is happening here.
Sure, we're all fine with that idea. Problem is that Kelly isn't "protecting him" by trotting him out there with an injury that clearly affects his throwing motion (and thus his timing and velocity).
We don't GAF what the injury actually is... That's just "gee whiz" info at this point. When a player is hurting enough that it kills the team, that player needs to sit. Full-stop, no argument.
Give the backup a chance to perform.
I'm not saying MVB is going to be a world beater if he comes in and gets time. What I am saying is that he was a starting QB in the conference last year on a team with less talent and he performed fairly well.
Nuss is not currently in the same universe as performing "fairly well".
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Whatever little you have seen of Van Buren against South Eastern Louisiana, the coaches clearly do not trust him to play against SEC competition week in week out in front of hostile crowds. Van Buren taking over from Nuss would signify the season is over.....And clearly the coaches do not think so.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:31 am to mike4lsu
I don't understand the benefit of not saying he's hurt. Nuss now has a ton of tape that he will have to explain to NFL scouts and the NFL docs will find out if he was hurt. I have been told the physical exams are extremely tough.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:35 am to Pauvetibete
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Nuss isnt as good as most of you think.
Ok, he isnt that good, he is hurt, either way we have to try and win football games.
Not going to happen with him at QB.
And look, VB may be terrible, Collins may be to inexperienced but at least give yourself a chance. If Nuss goes out there against AnM, OU, Alabama you know the result.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:39 am to NatalbanyTigerFan
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hrow deep to who?
Every eligible receiver is double covered.
This is false. Of course thry look coveted whe. He underthrowa them by 10 yds everytime. If he gets it deep like it should the reciever is open
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:40 am to Geaux Guy
Watched Todd McShay's podcast of game. He flat out said it looked like Nuss was hurt.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:46 am to mike4lsu
Yes. This has been discussed ad nauseam on here already.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:49 am to idlewatcher
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Nothing says "great coach" than (allegedly) playing an injured player.
Because he has no choice. If Van Buren was an SEC starting QB caliber he would be starting somewhere else. NIL and transfer portal ensures that nobody has a deep bench.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:51 am to mike4lsu
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Whatever little you have seen of Van Buren against South Eastern Louisiana, the coaches clearly do not trust him to play against SEC competition week in week out in front of hostile crowds.
Ummm....Did MVB not play last year in the SEC? Am I just imagining that he did?
I have no idea if MVB would be an improvement over Nuss at this point but I prefer a fully healthy QB over an injured QB that is VISIBLY struggling to pass the ball with any velocity on intermediate routes and is throwing "wounded ducks" on deeper routes. Go watch MVB highlights from last year, he DEFINITELY can throw a nice deep ball and would add the ability to run for some 1st downs. Is he JD5 in the running department...Absolutely not!....But he would be MUCH improved over this current version of Nuss.
If Nuss is hurt worse than we're being led on to believe, that's even more reason to play MVB. Afterall, properly allowing Nuss to heal is MORE IMPORTANT than trying to win football games with the risk of further injury....Or do we not care about the overall safety and health of our players?
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:51 am to mike4lsu
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Van Buren taking over from Nuss would signify the season is over
What a bitch made take
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:56 am to shinerfan
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It has occurred to me but I assume Brad Nussmeier is aware of the situation and has significant input.
I think you hit the nail on the head. The Saints will either have the 1st or 2nd pick in the draft. Tenn already have their QB. Nuss Sr. doesn't want Nuss Jr to play for the Saints, but since he works for them he can't discourage them from taking his son. By tanking his draft stock Nuss Jr avoids the Saints....
JK He's hurt end of story
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:56 am to Lakeboy7
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VB may be terrible, Collins may be to inexperienced but at least give yourself a chance
No, you still have a chance even with a hurt 5-th year NFL grade QB than a rookie ( Collins ) or with a very limited QB ( VB ).
You do not have a really hard road game until Oklahoma. (Alabama is not winnable at this point and the defense could take care of Vandy ).
The games at home, I think Nuss can pull it out.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:59 am to LSUDonMCO
Well, my point was that Papa Brad isn't throwing fits about his son playing hurt. At least, as far as we know. That's what confuses me
Posted on 9/30/25 at 9:03 am to mike4lsu
If he's that hurt (which I'm still not sold on), then it was coaching malpractice to practice/play him vs. SLU. LSU could have rested him that week to get him as near as possible to 100% for OM, then rested him again this week. LSU is not going to get essentially two "byes" in 3 weeks the rest of the season.
Would doing so have been enough to get a win vs. OM? Maybe. Sloan would still be calling the plays, which is a HUGE issue in its own right. But it could not have hurt.
Would doing so have been enough to get a win vs. OM? Maybe. Sloan would still be calling the plays, which is a HUGE issue in its own right. But it could not have hurt.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 9:04 am to mike4lsu
If he’s hurt then why is he playing?
Posted on 9/30/25 at 9:06 am to mike4lsu
I think nuss is more hurt than he wants to admit
Posted on 9/30/25 at 9:08 am to extremelsu
The Nussmeier story is going to have a worse ending than Bambi.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 9:14 am to Alt26
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If he's that hurt (which I'm still not sold on), then it was coaching malpractice to practice/play him vs. SLU.
I stated in another thread: if Nuss is injured in such a way that he’ll require surgery at the end of the season, and CBK kept sending him back out there, that ought to be sufficient reason to fire CBK for cause.
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