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Does everyone realize there was no spike?

Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:08 pm
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:08 pm
I understand the whole series of events was a total cluster fu$^## and I'm just as pissed as the next guy, but I get the feeling that some people do not realize that the last play never even happened. There was no spike. The clock expired before we snapped it.

Still no excuse for not having the field goal team out there and at least attempting to get a FG off and simply pray that the refs don't call game before the snap.

Nonetheless, there was no play ... game was whistled over before the attempted spike.

My biggest issues were (in order of what I'm most pissed about)

1. Play calling on 1st and 2nd down at the 32 yard line

2. Not getting the timeout until 9 seconds

3. Field goal team not huddled around the Specials Teams coach just waiting to be signaled into the game.

4. Running the same damn fade on the second 2pt conversion attempt.
This post was edited on 11/22/09 at 7:14 pm
Posted by The Godfather
Surrounded by Assholes
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:09 pm to
no excuse for not having enough time get a FG off...should have called a TO earlier
Posted by lsugolf1105
BR
Member since Aug 2008
3442 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

I understand the whole series of events was a total cluster fu$^## and I'm just as pissed as the next guy, but I get the feeling that some people do not realize that the last play never even happened. There was no spike. The clock expired before we snapped it.


why does this matter??
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:11 pm to
Why do you keep focusing on the unimportant topics? Are you just trying to evade the real discussion? Just trying to feel better?
Posted by Tigerwaffe
Orlando
Member since Sep 2007
4975 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:12 pm to
2 TOs, 50 seconds left, 32 yd-line, no FG attempt. Beyond mind boggling.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26206 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:12 pm to
Everyone keeps talking about the spike ... who called the spike ... miscommunication on the spike... Jefferson spiking it... Miles lying about the spike, etc, etc, etc.

To me, the last second deal was not the most troubling of our final minute issues.

There was no play. There was no spike. There would have been no field goal. There would have been no play going for the TD. Time expired before the snap.
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Member since Oct 2005
26206 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

2 TOs, 50 seconds left, 32 yd-line, no FG attempt. Beyond mind boggling.



Bingo!
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:13 pm to
We also let Ole Miss run entirely too much time off the clock on their last drive.
Posted by lctiger
Member since Oct 2003
3287 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:14 pm to
I realize there was no spike. However part of the reason was because Jefferson was looking to the sideline and not getting under center. The ref waited over the ball a long time waiting on the chain guy. If we had fg team prepared and running on field as soon as TT went down we had a small chance of snapping it as soon as whistle blew.
Posted by lsugolf1105
BR
Member since Aug 2008
3442 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

There was no play. There was no spike. There would have been no field goal. There would have been no play going for the TD. Time expired before the snap.


The point is that if Miles was prepared for that situation, he would have either kicked the field goal or ran a play. there was no play because jj was completely confused and didn't hurry up to the line.
This post was edited on 11/22/09 at 7:16 pm
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26206 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

Why do you keep focusing on the unimportant topics? Are you just trying to evade the real discussion? Just trying to feel better?





LINK
Posted by msbargas
Ponte vedra beach FL
Member since Sep 2009
727 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

The clock expired before we snapped it.


How did that happen?

Posted by SallyWheeler
Member since Dec 2007
3221 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:15 pm to
I would put the first onsides kick at the bottom of that list. Even if they would have recovered it, I would have disagreed with the call. No need for it in that situation. Came back to haunt LSU too.
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82361 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:15 pm to
Which raises another concern, not being able to get the snap off in time after the ball was set for play
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
36672 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:16 pm to
You've started two topics just about the spike/no spike.
Posted by lsugolf1105
BR
Member since Aug 2008
3442 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:16 pm to
for a moment it looked like lafell was going to take the snap because jj was nowhere to be found.
Posted by Dodd
Member since Oct 2003
21048 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:17 pm to
legally happened or not, the spike occured. That's a complete catastrophe that should never go undiscussed.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26206 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:17 pm to
Personally, I didn't have a problem with the first onside kick. Their O was driving deep into our own territory every time they had the ball anyway, so it's not like they wouldn't have gotten there anyway.

It was the perfect time to kick an onside kick ... when no one in the world would expect an onside kick.

I had no issues with that.
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82361 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:18 pm to
Since you love defending Les so much and stand firm that he was signaling the player down, how many precious seconds did he waste by trying to play referee?
Posted by Polar Bear
Member since Oct 2009
1800 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:18 pm to
JP - the coaches called for a spike. Someone did. Because we spiked the football.

Whether or not it counted is irrelevant.

Our coaching staff somehow translated that play.
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