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re: Does everyone realize there was no spike?
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:19 pm to drizztiger
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:19 pm to drizztiger
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You've started two topics just about the spike/no spike.
Umm, no I have not.
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Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:19 pm to JPLSU1981
i can understand you being pissed about some things, but i kind of agree with the fade call. toliver is 6'5" the corner is a midget. with a little better throw from jj we go to overtime.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:20 pm to JPLSU1981
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Still no excuse for not having the field goal team out there and at least attempting to get a FG off and simply pray that the refs don't call game before the snap.
No prayer would have been necessary if Les had simply done his job. The exact same situation happened in a 2001 Purdue Minnesota game (except it was a 3 pt difference instead of 2). Purdue got the FG off in time, went into OT, and won it. After the game the coach of Purdue said they practiced for that situation every week.
LINK
This post was edited on 11/22/09 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:21 pm to SallyWheeler
here is one thing to add to your list. in the 3rd qt we are driving the ball and have 2nd and 4. Les calls a T.O. and JJ gets sacked on the next play....then we get a penalty. Now its something ridiculous like 3rd and 18. Incomplete to Lafell and we punt.
the offense feeds off of itself, once in a groove they drive right down the field. Our coaches do a wonderful job of preventing the slightest formation of offensive rhythm.
MEMO TO COACHING STAFF: stop f'ing with the offense when they are building a rhythm...save your TO's for more important things
the offense feeds off of itself, once in a groove they drive right down the field. Our coaches do a wonderful job of preventing the slightest formation of offensive rhythm.
MEMO TO COACHING STAFF: stop f'ing with the offense when they are building a rhythm...save your TO's for more important things
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:21 pm to Polar Bear
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JP - the coaches called for a spike. Someone did. Because we spiked the football.
Whether or not it counted is irrelevant.
Our coaching staff somehow translated that play.
People don't get this aspect, when we go for it 356 times on 4th down and convert then its all Les...but when this spike call gets communicated to the field then all of a sudden everybody is looking around questioning who called it
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:21 pm to LSUsmartass
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Since you love defending Les so much and stand firm that he was signaling the player down, how many precious seconds did he waste by trying to play referee?
First of all, I haven't defended Les once today. To the contrary, LINK
That said, I'm in total agreement. To me, he should have been all over getting the FG team out there and shouldn't have been worrying about an obvious catch (and obvious no fumble).
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:21 pm to JPLSU1981
The fact that the spike didn't occur within regulation is irrelevant.
Miles is lost. His team is lost. The spike was communicated to JJ. And, assuming Miles didn't call for the spike, that would mean Miles had NO CLUE we were calling for a spike.
This blatantly shows the incompetency of Miles and the coaches.
The spike play was called. Period. Whether or not it "counted" is completely irrelevant.
Miles is lost. His team is lost. The spike was communicated to JJ. And, assuming Miles didn't call for the spike, that would mean Miles had NO CLUE we were calling for a spike.
This blatantly shows the incompetency of Miles and the coaches.
The spike play was called. Period. Whether or not it "counted" is completely irrelevant.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:22 pm to Polar Bear
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JP - the coaches called for a spike. Someone did. Because we spiked the football.
Whether or not it counted is irrelevant.
Very true. Tis a good point. I just wanted to make sure everyone knew that regardless of what the call would have been, we were likely not going to get a play off whether the call had been A)spike B)FG C)regular play
But you are correct. Regardless of who called the spike and if we even got the spike off, it was nonetheless called by someone, which is troubling and frustrating and maddening.
This post was edited on 11/22/09 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:23 pm to adam32
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i can understand you being pissed about some things, but i kind of agree with the fade call. toliver is 6'5" the corner is a midget. with a little better throw from jj we go to overtime.
I was Ok with the fade on the 1st 2pt attempt... but once you get the ball at the 1.5, I don't agree at all with running that play for a second consecutive time.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:23 pm to JPLSU1981
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wanted to make sure everyone knew that regardless of what the call would have been, we were likely not going to get a play off whether the call had been A)spike B)FG C)regular play
why do you think this when it has been done before?
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:23 pm to JPLSU1981
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Very true. Tis a good point. I just wanted to make sure everyone knew that regardless of what the call would have been, we were likely not going to get a play off whether the call had been A)spike B)FG C)regular play
Wrong again. It never ends with you, does it?
An organized team would have gotten a play off. A "competent" team would have gotten a play off. Had the FG unit gone on, they could have gotten a kick off.
Don't believe me?
Look up the ending to the Purdue and Minnesota game in 2001 and get back to me.
This post was edited on 11/22/09 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:24 pm to JPLSU1981
I don't know bro, you sort of leave yourself on the fence with that post...if he turns things around then you'll be able to say you never fully called him out and if he continues his downward spiral you can say you pointed at this game as his beginning of his end
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:26 pm to JPLSU1981
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we were likely not going to get a play off whether the call had been A)spike B)FG C)regular play
Because of very poor coaching, as soon as the ref whistles the ball set for play the snap needs to get off...this is practiced every week around most high school practice fields much less D-1 colleges
This post was edited on 11/22/09 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:27 pm to LSUsmartass
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Because of very poor coaching, as soon as the ref whistles the ball sets for play the snap needs to get off...this is practiced every week around most high school practice fields much less D-1 colleges
This.
Chains move, chains set, whistle blows, clock starts.
There was time.
Again, if anyone needs collegiate proof of this, look up the ending to the Purdue vs Minnesota game in 2001.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:27 pm to JPLSU1981
the last play never happened because the official was standing over the ball ready to put it into play and jefferson was still doing his meerkat manor stare at the sideline .. by the time he got under center, it had expired .. either way, anyone with half a brain would know you couldn't clock the ball with :01 left ..
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:28 pm to LSUsmartass
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I don't know bro, you sort of leave yourself on the fence with that post...if he turns things around then you'll be able to say you never fully called him out and if he continues his downward spiral you can say you pointed at this game as his beginning of his end
Well, I don't know what else to say. I've certainly lost confidence in our coaching staff, starting with and including Les Miles.
It will take a lot in 2010 to restore that confidence, and as of today if I had to make a prediction, my confidence will likely never be restored. If we don't win the SEC West in 2010, I want him fired.
This post was edited on 11/22/09 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:28 pm to LSUsmartass
and don't foget .. there could have easily actually been :01.9 or :01.8 on the clock for all we knew ..
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:30 pm to Polar Bear
Polar... I'm not arguing. it's definitely possible to get a play off, no question.
And IMO the refs would have let us get the field goal off, as I don't think they could have NOT allowed it...
That said, it's certainly obvious that it's possible to NOT get a play off, because indeed in the 2009 LSU-Ole Miss game, the refs called the game before the snap.
And IMO the refs would have let us get the field goal off, as I don't think they could have NOT allowed it...
That said, it's certainly obvious that it's possible to NOT get a play off, because indeed in the 2009 LSU-Ole Miss game, the refs called the game before the snap.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:31 pm to TigahRag
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there could have easily actually been :01.9 or :01.8 on the clock for all we knew ..
Definitely. It also could have only been .4 on the clock as well...
Posted on 11/22/09 at 7:33 pm to JPLSU1981
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understand the whole series of events was a total cluster fu$^## and I'm just as pissed as the next guy, but I get the feeling that some people do not realize that the last play never even happened. There was no spike. The clock expired before we snapped it.
Because Jefferson was running around with his head cut off because fricknut was leading a chorus of confusion on the sideline.
YOU do understand getting plays off in 1 second is quite doable, and YOU do understand that even if he got it off he was going to spike it.
Sorry that reflects on your 'fantastic' (your fricking word... not mine) coach.
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