re: Does anyone still believe that Jeremy Hill is/was a better back than Fournette?

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Or Hill's coming out party vs Auburn?

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Actually that was South Carolina LES.............

the rant is consistent that it would rather have a RB lay down wood in the secondary giving up yards to "punish the defenders"

hill is not on the same level as Bo, and Hershel. That is what your argument was implying, that because Hill has the record for YPC above Bo and Hershel that he is obviously better than them.

I don't deny HIll was a great running back, I think Fournette based on a small sample size is better than what hill was at LSU. But the sample size is small, Fournette's stats may be inflated by playing a crappy Auburn run D, or Fournette will break out and have a record breaking Heisman winning year.

If Fournette countinues to play like he did in the first two games, I find it hard to believe he won't have a better career than Hill.

But again we are comparing two luxury cars, both are great.

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You're comparing greatness here. But Hill's ability to wait for a hole or see a cutback separates him from Leonard. Not a knock on Leonard, but that's the truth.

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Leonard is harder to bring down than Hill.

plus give him time, he still has 21+ games left in his career at LSU (assuming no injuries)

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yes.

if we must break it down, Hill's vision is on another level. As great as LF is, he still misses some holes and cutbacks. Splitting hairs, but in the long run Hill's talent plays a little better, imo

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I agree. One of the first things I said to my dad when Fournette sprang loose on the first play of the game was that Hill would not have been caught from behind.

However, going into this game I thought there was still a pretty sizable gap between HIll and Fournette. As of yesterday, that gap closed substantially.

But remember how bad this Auburn team is. They very well might finish 5th or 6th in the division.

If Fournette can generate that sort of production against Ole Miss or Alabama, I will gladly crown him as better than Hill.

Remember, longevity is what makes you an all-time great. His stats and overall body of work are still relatively modest when compared with Alexander, Faulk, and Hilliard.

Fournette is better than hill and Collins in his prime.

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does anybody doubt that hill would have taken that opportunity to the house?

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The defender had a good angle then Dural blocked him into LF so I'm not sure

Watching that replay I have no clue what that Auburn db was trying to do. Of course it looks good for LF and his Heisman push though.

Lester let me repeat what you just said to make sure I got what you are saying

You are saying Hill, who was never in the Heisman conversation is on the same level as a running back who was in the top 3 of Heisman voting all 3 years he was in college?

Hill isn't even one of the top back of his era, to compare him to some of the top backs in college football history is beyond stupid.

You are running with this YPC thing.

BTW Bo Jackson had a better YPC in his sophomore year, but because of the 200 carry minimum that doesn't count.

158 carries 1,213 yards and 12 TDs that is a 7.7 YPC average. He doesn't even hold the average for YPC with 100 carries minimum.

Hill had one impressive season where his stats are comparable to other great backs, but Bo and Hershel did it over multiple seasons.