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re: Does anyone here still not like Miles as LSU head coach?

Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:42 am to
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:42 am to
Mike Leach
Tommy Tuberville
Brian Kelly
Posted by Qwerty
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:43 am to
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quote: "He has to surround himself with good coaches and great talent to be successful."

This will be my new sig. quote. Just a brilliant reason on why to not like Miles.


A few corollaries:

"He usually has to rely on decent quarterback play to have any passing game."
"He has to rely on great special teams and defense play to win big games."
"He needs transportation to get to work on time."
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:43 am to
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Their offense was pretty predictable.



Their offense had DMAC Felix Jones and Peyton hillis. Our top 2 d tackles were out and our d line depth was shaky after that. That makes it tough to stop 3 NFL backs. I dont know how you arent getting that concept.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
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Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:43 am to
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1 sec championship


I think this is a concern for a lot of people. He's had several teams that were talented enough to win the SEC, yet he's only done it once. Mack Brown faced the same criticism at Texas.

That, along with the fact his teams have a tendency to look sloppy and ill-prepared at times, not to mention the clock management issues that seem to occur every year.
Posted by USMCTiger03
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Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:44 am to
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You realize that you just defined what a great coach does? He surrounds himself with good coaches and great talent. That means: A: good coaches want to work for him. They realize they will win games, develop, advance their careers, and even enjoy their boss. B: great players want to play for him. They realize they will win games, get to play, develop, have a shot at the NFL, and enjoy playing for him. That seems like a recipe for a successful program, rather than some offensive or defensive guru who has success because of schemes at times but cannot do the other head coaching jobs.


THIS. But even moreso, the coaches and players don't just want to work/play for a great coach, they want to do their best and win.

So, IMO, even having good coaches and players isn't enough at this level, you also have to motivate them and direct their focus and energy.
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:44 am to
Actually, him and Mac are very similar. Both clock management problems as well. Very good comparison.
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:45 am to
If you're not sold on Les Miles at this point in his tenure at LSU, then you're not a real LSU fan.

He is the best possible coach for LSU right now.

Posted by josh336
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Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:45 am to
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He is the best possible coach for LSU right now.

Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:50 am to
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Mike Leach Tommy Tuberville

At what point were they successful with mediocre players and coaches?
Posted by USMCTiger03
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Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:53 am to
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If you're not sold on Les Miles at this point in his tenure at LSU, then you're not a real LSU fan. He is the best possible coach for LSU right now.
There is no perfect coach. I like Miles all around and as a person, and he definitely is perfect or close to it for the machine we have in place.
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:53 am to
Texas Tech and Auburn
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:55 am to
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2007 UNBELIEVABLY LOADED teams


You mean the team that sports BCSNC rings on their fingers???

If you followed LSU in 06 and watched the LSU vs. Fla game, you would know it was the play on the field that cost us another shot at the BCS a hell of a lot more than anything a coach did on the sidelines. imo



Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:56 am to
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He has to surround himself with good coaches and great talent to be successful.

quote:

This will be my new sig. quote. Just a brilliant reason on why to not like Miles.


I really 'd

You just brilliantly summed up this entire thread.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:56 am to
Very true, the players cost us that game, while Coaching was a big reason we lost to Auburn that year
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:56 am to
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Mike Leach
Tommy Tuberville
Brian Kelly


Leach and Tubbs had some serious talent over the years. Brian Kelly is a fricking bum.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:57 am to
He's won everywhere he's been, he's in year 2 at Notre Dame, hardly a bum
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 9/23/11 at 9:59 am to
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If you're not sold on Les Miles at this point in his tenure at LSU, then you're not a real LSU fan.


I couldn't disagree more. You don't have to be a Les Miles fan to an real LSU fan.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 9/23/11 at 10:00 am to
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Texas Tech and Auburn


Fired and Fired
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/23/11 at 10:02 am to
Yep, but let's clarify, tubbs did alot with little at auburn and leach didn't get fired for on field performance
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 9/23/11 at 10:02 am to
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He's won everywhere he's been, he's in year 2 at Notre Dame, hardly a bum
What has he won?
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