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re: Did Florida State have the formula for stopping our offense?

Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23638 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:37 pm to
FSU does have a great DL, but not having Diggs was definitely an issue. Also, the OL just wasn’t anywhere close to the level they have played at recently in that game.

Daniels also had a lot of moments in the 2nd half where he went into a shell and either held the ball or just took off like we saw a lot last year. As with the OL, he’s been much better and far more consistent since that game.

Teams often improve during the course of the season. This LSU offense undoubtedly has and I think they would fare much better if they played FSU again today after getting on track, as good as the Noles are.
Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
Picayune MS
Member since Sep 2014
5721 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:39 pm to
Logan Diggs and John Emery Jr. didn't play.
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
2189 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:45 pm to
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I'm not saying we kill them if we played now but it would absolutely be a different dynamic with how we're functioning now.
it would be a shootout similar to Ole Miss and Mizzou that defense isn’t stoping Travis, Coleman, and Wilson.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19872 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:00 pm to
They owned the LOS
Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
Member since Jul 2010
17757 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:08 pm to
LSU has a lot of opportunities to put that game away in the first half and didn’t take advantage
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
5547 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:21 pm to
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Umm negative. OL played like dogshite and we had a couple opportunities early to score TDs and ended up with like 3 or 6 points. Changed the momentum biggly.



Lol. You people crack me up.

Did you ever once think WHY our OL looked bad? It was because of how dominant the Florida State D-Line was. You look unusually bad when you play against a really good opponent.
Posted by uptowntiger84
uptown
Member since Jul 2011
3931 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:40 pm to
1st game of the season. Would be a different game if played today.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8676 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:44 pm to
That week 1 offense isn’t this offense. And we had 2 possible TD drops in the 2nd half. Not to mention our red zone offense was trash in that game.
Posted by ConcreteThreshold
Denver, CO
Member since Jun 2017
1196 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:48 pm to
Give them credit, but we didn’t have Diggs and we had to open our offensive year against a very tough opponent.

Lessons were learned immediately after that game. Really unfortunate that we didn’t play to our potential on the money downs.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14554 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 6:37 am to
Well we had 293 yards in the first half and should have had 31 points at half - I'll say what many said at the time some very, very questionable calls in the red zone and in short yardage...I think Kelly admitted as much said we needed to fix that and I think the staff largely has.

We did not do as well in the second half moving the ball consistently, but I could point to drops that killed two potential scoring drives and IMHO a non-call on the interception that I thought was PI on Nabors killed another.

JB5 did not look as sharp that game, I think you can give FSU some credit for that, but it wasn't like we spun our wheels the whole game.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39895 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 6:55 am to
Go back and look at the interception that turned the game. The FSU defender beat Malik Nabers one on one. I haven’t seen anyone else do that. I have read several Tiger fans saying it was a fluke; that Nabers slipped. He slipped because he was manhandled.

FSU’s defensive line is the only one this year that controlled our offensive line. They have a legit pro prospect QB, and their receivers are at least as good as ours. That team is loaded.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39895 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 6:58 am to
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If we run a qb sneak on 2 4th downs, we score 31 pts in the first half.

Baloney. QB sneaks are not magical mystery plays. They fail often.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119074 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 7:05 am to
Versus FSU was Jayden's worse game of the season. He fell back to his old habits of holding the ball too long and being indecisive. And when the WR's started dropping the balls in the second half it was too much to overcome.

Somewhere after the FSU game the lights came on. It was hard to tell if they came on during the Grambling game because Grambling was so outmatched. At the time Grambling appeared to be a mirage. But looking back, that's when the Jayden began to read defenses pre-snap, started trusting his WRs and looked a lot more decisive.

It doesn't take much to go from very good QB to Heisman candidate especially in Jayden's case. It seems the small changes that have improved Jayden's play were trusting his reads and making the throw a half second earlier.
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 7:07 am
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
3830 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 7:06 am to
Yes, formula is to play LSU in first game of season.
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
6631 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 7:08 am to
Yes, LSU dropping three consecutive third down passes and having terrible play calling in the red zone was all them. Indian curse passed from the local chief down to Norvell.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32456 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 7:40 am to
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Red zone inexperience, malik slipping,
Terible play calling in the red zone, not inexperience. If you have to blame the loss on a player slipping on the field, You’re reaching.
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
4039 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 7:43 am to
quote:

Did Florida State have the formula for stopping our offense?



Loss was a team effort, but JD5 wasn't nearly the QB for that game that he has morphed into. We should've put them away by halftime.
Posted by tgdk11
Member since Nov 2017
1087 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 7:57 am to
I agree they sometimes don't work. But when possession was first and goal from the 3, you run it til you get in. And when it's 3rd and 1 from like the 18 you have 2 tries. Odds you make those with 4 and 2 qb sneak attempts each is like 98%. We ran dives out of shotgun, or pass plays. Week or 2 later we adjusted to the qb push play, etc. If we ran those against fsu, we score 31 in the first. They may still beat us since they boat raced us at the end. But it would have been who had the ball last vs the arse whooping.

And to op question, we'd have scored 38-45... so no they didn't. They have elite d line and very good team. But we stopped ourselves scoring pts by calls we made. Similar to ole miss 3rd and 5 rollout to win the game.
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
14238 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:01 am to
They’ve had the formula for beating us the last two years…play us game 1.
Posted by Cd104444
Member since Aug 2019
1084 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:04 am to
We were awful in the red zone
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