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re: Dick Vitale says 'major allegations' coming for LSU and Arizona
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:04 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:04 pm to Lester Earl
Lol once again projection and this is exactly why. There’s no substance when you post it’s all your posturing and bullshite. It’s a waste of time, you’re not interested in the truth of this you said so yourself.
fricking mamas boy loser
fricking mamas boy loser
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:08 pm to Madking
You are literally arguing against a screen shot of the exact shite that you said incorrectly.... for the 3rd time in this thread
You don’t know what projection & posturing mean. You make zero sense.
You don’t know what projection & posturing mean. You make zero sense.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:09 pm to Lester Earl
Posted by you today
Posted by Lester Earl online on 4/2/20 at 5:12 pm to Madking
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crowd. I’m not in the “everybody’s doing it so it’s ok” crowd, I don’t want a dirty coach.
And I don’t care if he’s doing it. Don’t care one bit. shite, You have to it to keep up.
Yet earlier you had literally argued the opposite and said you did care that it wasn’t about being right. You’re a liar plain and simple and if you wanna follow me around like a lost dog I’ll keep giving you backhands if you want but don’t expect anything else.
Posted by Lester Earl online on 4/2/20 at 5:12 pm to Madking
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crowd. I’m not in the “everybody’s doing it so it’s ok” crowd, I don’t want a dirty coach.
And I don’t care if he’s doing it. Don’t care one bit. shite, You have to it to keep up.
Yet earlier you had literally argued the opposite and said you did care that it wasn’t about being right. You’re a liar plain and simple and if you wanna follow me around like a lost dog I’ll keep giving you backhands if you want but don’t expect anything else.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:10 pm to Lester Earl
More bullshite but that’s your game. Motive prediction and assumption then when you’re debunked you just say you weren’t. It’s so lazy sophomoric and lame but that’s you in a nutshell Lester.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:11 pm to Madking
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Posted by you today
Posted by Lester Earl online on 4/2/20 at 5:12 pm to Madking
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crowd. I’m not in the “everybody’s doing it so it’s ok” crowd, I don’t want a dirty coach.
And I don’t care if he’s doing it. Don’t care one bit. shite, You have to it to keep up.
Yet earlier you had literally argued the opposite and said you did care that it wasn’t about being right. You’re a liar plain and simple and if you wanna follow me around like a lost dog I’ll keep giving you backhands if you want but don’t expect anything else.
I have no clue what you are trying to say. Don’t drink on your psych meds bro
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:14 pm to Madking
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when you’re debunked
Yea like when I made up the story earlier then showed you the exact screen shot it came from? Lmao
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:15 pm to Lester Earl
Lmfao and to think you actually believe those stupid kiddy tactics work on people. No wonder everyone hates you dude. I don’t but grow up, use that perceptive noggin in a better way.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:27 pm to Lester Earl
What are you gaining out of prematurely convicting Wade? If you just think that’s how it’ll play out why’d you back off of that claim last spring? And if that’s just how you see it playing out why no alternative? You’re not honest that’s your main problem.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:25 am to Irish LSU Fan
I see what you are saying but there are a couple of issues.
1) Wire tap eludes to strong arse offer. Please define what that is. You need proof. Players and families are denying any money traded hands.
2) FBI didn't use because they couldn't prove any of it.
3) If a letter, or notice of an investigation, was given to LSU, don't you think the talking heads would know about it and it would have been leaked.
All you have right now is some pissed off journalists and an old man at Will Wade for taking kids away from the blue bloods. They are mad because they fell in deaf ears last year and nothing hapoened, no proof. They are striking while iron is not because of documentary. The NCAA cannot force a player or citizen to speak them, all indications are the players involved are saying nothing transpired.
1) Wire tap eludes to strong arse offer. Please define what that is. You need proof. Players and families are denying any money traded hands.
2) FBI didn't use because they couldn't prove any of it.
3) If a letter, or notice of an investigation, was given to LSU, don't you think the talking heads would know about it and it would have been leaked.
All you have right now is some pissed off journalists and an old man at Will Wade for taking kids away from the blue bloods. They are mad because they fell in deaf ears last year and nothing hapoened, no proof. They are striking while iron is not because of documentary. The NCAA cannot force a player or citizen to speak them, all indications are the players involved are saying nothing transpired.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:49 am to TabledTiger
What’s his problem with LSU? Every time I turn around he’s trashing the tigers. Did someone from LSU poop in his corn flakes or something?
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:55 am to tjtiger9
The HBO documentary producer in an interview on lebatard seemed to suggest the FBI had the coaches dead to rights and then all of a sudden something happened and they just quit investigating. Of course it was lebatard so dude said it was because they busted a black dude and the coaches were white guys
My speculation is that from what they found by turning over that rock, they would have had to shut down every major college basketball program which is, as they say, too big to fail. Shut down a billion dollar industry because some college kids are being compensated for work that they could be paid for in the NBA or by sponsors, but for an arbitrary rule that does not permit them to go pro out of high school or get paid by sponsors. Makes sense especially since the NCAA is finally looking for ways to compensate these revenue generating players. What a bunch of nonsense
My speculation is that from what they found by turning over that rock, they would have had to shut down every major college basketball program which is, as they say, too big to fail. Shut down a billion dollar industry because some college kids are being compensated for work that they could be paid for in the NBA or by sponsors, but for an arbitrary rule that does not permit them to go pro out of high school or get paid by sponsors. Makes sense especially since the NCAA is finally looking for ways to compensate these revenue generating players. What a bunch of nonsense
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:17 am to TabledTiger
quote:Nothing will happen to LSU and Arizona
Dick Vitale says 'major allegations' coming for LSU and Arizona
We lost March Madness, we're being told to stay at home, it's wall-to-wall Covid coverage. And BTW LSU is in one of the hot spots.
When we DO get college sports back, do you HONESTLY think the NCAA will do anything other than hype the sport? Sports are about feeling good. They're not going to drop the hammer on anyone for awhile.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:01 am to tjtiger9
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1) Wire tap eludes to strong arse offer. Please define what that is. You need proof. Players and families are denying any money traded hands.
I don't need proof because I'm not adjudicating this issue. The NCAA will (or already have according to the insiders) make a decision based on evidence. And don't forget, circumstantial evidence IS evidence. The NCAA is NOT a court of law and it does not operate as a court of law. So, depending on your definition of "proof," the NCAA does not need proof, just a preponderance of the evidence. WW's statements on the FBI wiretap is strong evidence of wrongdoing. Other FBI wiretap conversations by coaches, etc. discussing WW's wrongdoing is also strong evidence.
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2) FBI didn't use because they couldn't prove any of it.
Again, the NCAA is not a courtroom. They alone decide what evidence to use and how to evaluate that evidence. Courtroom procedures mean nothing within the four walls of the NCAA.
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3) If a letter, or notice of an investigation, was given to LSU, don't you think the talking heads would know about it and it would have been leaked.
Unknown. Maybe LSU/WW has continued to be under investigation since the WW suspension (and he was certainly under investigation at that time).
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All you have right now is some pissed off journalists and an old man at Will Wade for taking kids away from the blue bloods.
We don't know what the NCAA has as evidence. But we do know that a number of insiders say that a letter from the NCAA detailing violations is on its way.
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They are mad because they fell in deaf ears last year and nothing hapoened, no proof.
Again, "proof" is a very misused/overused word on this board. People are convicted of serious crimes every day without "proof" (using the definition many have attached).
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The NCAA cannot force a player or citizen to speak them, all indications are the players involved are saying nothing transpired.
As far as we know at this time, true. However, we don't know what the NCAA has as evidence. Some believe that the strongest evidence are WW's own words. We will have to wait and see.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:25 am to Irish LSU Fan
Can you or Lester please tell the class what rule they'll say Wade broke and the proof of said broken rule?
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:36 am to Irish LSU Fan
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WW's statements on the FBI wiretap is strong evidence of wrongdoing. Other FBI wiretap conversations by coaches, etc. discussing WW's wrongdoing is also strong evidence.
Ok. Then tell me who Wade paid, and tell me how much? Since Wade was talking to Dawkins during this recording, I'm guessing that proves that the money came from Dawkins for you?? Correct me if I'm wrong.
So, with this strong evidence, certainly they would have discussed the specifics in this recording right? So it should be easy to provide these answers to me.
Before you tell me that it wasn't in that specific conversation, then tell me how the FBI would miss the other conversations since Dawkins was tapped for a while.
I'll patiently wait for your response, with great anticipation.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 11:37 am
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:40 am to MightyYat
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Can you or Lester please tell the class what rule they'll say Wade broke and the proof of said broken rule?
I'm not quite sure what this poorly constructed question is asking. But, I'll do my best.
I don't "know" what will be presented by the NCAA. I don't work for them. However, it seems that the following are true (to most on this board):
1. Everybody cheats (including WW).
2. The FBI wiretaps indicate WW is involved in this behavior (WW's celebrated reference as a gangsta indicates this).
3. The NCAA considers paying players a "major" violation (Level I or II).
4. A number of "inside" sources and career journalists have said the NCAA is coming for LSU/WW (which should not surprise anyone if #1 & #3 are true).
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:42 am to Irish LSU Fan
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Other FBI wiretap conversations by coaches, etc. discussing WW's wrongdoing is also strong evidence.
No it isn't.
It's a convicted felon telling another coach that Wade is driving the price up. Dawkins already admitted to lying to coaches about amounts of money previously in the documentary. How do we know he isn't the one driving the price up so he can pocket more money?
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:43 am to Irish LSU Fan
Instead of down voting other people, then up voting yourself, to weirdly give you a sense of satisfaction, why don't you answer my questions?
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:45 am to Irish LSU Fan
So two people can say you did something and you’re presumed guilty with no proof? Is that how the NCAA operates?
Serious question.
Serious question.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:48 am to Rosenblatt
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So two people can say you did something and you’re presumed guilty with no proof? Is that how the NCAA operates?
I saw Saban hire 3 male prostitutes (they were the recruits brother, cousin
and uncle) in exchange for his commitment. Anybody else see this? Let's bring that mother fricker down. The NCAA will have PROOF!!!
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 11:49 am
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