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re: Denbrock comment on JD is hugely important
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:05 pm to mdomingue
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:05 pm to mdomingue
I never said that Daniels won't improve at all. I said comparing him to Joe Burrow was dumb. People should hope for a Zach Mettenberger like improvement, because that is more realistic.
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Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:11 pm to NewportTiger
Honestly not being in a comp should help JD open up. He can establish himself with his wrs all spring and summer. He can also stop trying to not turn it over at all cost.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:14 pm to LSBoosie
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have. None of them made as big of a jump as Burrow did. So what's your point?
Yea, none of them had the best single season of any college football QB ever. You got everyone good.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:17 pm to LSBoosie
I believe the point is all those QBs got better in year 3 or 4, not in the jump from 1 to 2. To say that JD can't improve because he's "hit his ceiling" I find a little lazy.
Maybe he doesn't get any better as a passer, but I'm a decade into my career and I get better every day.
Maybe he doesn't get any better as a passer, but I'm a decade into my career and I get better every day.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:17 pm to Lester Earl
So why are you comparing the two, if they aren't accurate? Why don't we just compare every quarterback the is returning to 2018/2019 Joe Burrow?
This post was edited on 1/1/23 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:20 pm to LSBoosie
QBs can improve even when they are in their 4-5th year. Even if they’ve started multiple years. Even if they haven’t. None of this is hard to understand
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:21 pm to Lester Earl
When did I ever say that Daniels can't improve?
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:24 pm to One Arm Steve
I have never said that Daniels can't improve.
Then it would be better to compare him to those quarterbacks, not Joe Burrow.
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I believe the point is all those QBs got better in year 3 or 4, not in the jump from 1 to 2.
Then it would be better to compare him to those quarterbacks, not Joe Burrow.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:28 pm to LSBoosie
Where did anyone say Daniels will have a season as good as Burrow
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:33 pm to Lester Earl
Never said anyone did. I said expecting Daniels to make a Burrow like jump is unrealistic and stupid. You then responded to that with a bunch of other guys who did not make a Burrow like jump. So I said we should probably compare Daniels to those guys instead of Burrow. This really isn't hard to understand.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:36 pm to SMD
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Why people think just because a player returns they will improve is pretty impressive.
Especially when there are literal mountains of evidence to the contrary.
Our boy has started for 4 years and half this board thinks his 2023 season will be comparable to Burrow's 2019.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:38 pm to LSBoosie
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I said expecting Daniels to make a Burrow like jump is unrealistic and stupid.
But you just said no one actually said this
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:40 pm to LSBoosie
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I never said that Daniels won't improve at all. I said comparing him to Joe Burrow was dumb. People should hope for a Zach Mettenberger like improvement, because that is more realistic.
The guy was comparing an improvement with an extra year of playing together with the QB and receivers. He was not suggesting that JD would be as good as Burrow, even saying that in his statement.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:42 pm to One Arm Steve
Since Burrow threw 65 TDs in his second year as a starter, what is the prediction for Daniels for his fourth year.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:43 pm to Tiger in Gatorland
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Hopefully the WRs take on a summer of 10k catches with JD.
This X 10,000. We could really use this.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:43 pm to Lester Earl
Jesus Christ man, go read the thread. I was making a general point to a guy that asked me why I don't think people should be comparing Jayden Daniels to Joe Burrow. I told him I don't think people should compare Daniels to Burrow because he will not make a Burrow like jump. Instead people should compare him to the guys that you mentioned previously.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:47 pm to Tiger in Gatorland
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Hopefully the WRs take on a summer of 10k catches with JD.
As crazy as that sounded, the results spoke for themselves.
Ed didn’t have that same mindset in 2020 and beyond, however.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:53 pm to Gus007
Can't compare the two. Joe Burrow benefitted greatly from his ability to read a defense. If they could teach that to Daniels in the offseason, we may all be surprised at his improvement.
Disclaimer: I am not saying that JD will be as good as Joey B.
Disclaimer: I am not saying that JD will be as good as Joey B.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:59 pm to LSBoosie
Saying he could improve like Burrow did is a general idea. You are the one acting like someone said he could have a year like Burrow. Those aren’t the same things. You projected that idea yourself
Posted on 1/1/23 at 2:00 pm to LSBoosie
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2. Daniels is going into his 5th year as a starting QB whereas Burrow was going into his 2nd. Expecting Daniels to make a Burrow like jump is unrealistic and stupid.
I get it, you were responding to someone who was comparing Burrow's first then second year at LSU to Daniels first/soon to be second year at LSU. But stupid??
I really wish people would stop saying Daniels has reached his peak simply because he has started four years of CFB. Why would you say that?? Every player's situation is different. Some players play like they've had four year's experience and some play like they've had one year's experience four times.
Daniels first year was with a Junior/Senior laden OL and WRs, of which the majority of the starters would end up playing on Sunday. The next two years was spent under a terrible coaching staff that would all be fired at the end of Daniels third year.
Burrow, on the other hand, would not start during his first three years, but spent them under the development of one of the greatest offensive football minds CFB has ever seen. I'm thinking the majority of "coaching" Burrow received that gave him an advantage was received while he was at OSU and not LSU. He then parlayed that into a very good and then a dominating season on a team loaded with NFL talent on offense.
Comparing one player to another who was in a totally different situation is not fair to either. Neither is it fair to compare them based on number of games started when those two came from totally different schools/situations/time. Just my honest opinion.
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