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re: Dedan Thomas to LSU
Posted on 4/1/25 at 1:29 pm to Adam Banks
Posted on 4/1/25 at 1:29 pm to Adam Banks
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Who’s fault is it that we ran a poverty program?
I would put that on the shoulders of Woodward. He thought the LSU brand would carry itself in multiple sports and it didn't. It's not a coincidence you see such a buy in in regards to NIL in football and basketball in the same calendar year.
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 1:32 pm to drizztiger
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Regardless, you said in the bank. Now it's we could reach that. Do you not understand how those are conflicting statements?
Do you have money in your bank account currently or do you drain it every time you get paid just for the hell of it? LSU football still has a nice chunk of change left in their NIL budget as well. Doesn't absolutely mean they'll spend it.
You can go back and read my other posts as well that I was concerned that just because LSU had the money didn't necessarily mean they would actually be able to attract players with it when there were other more attractive schools also wanting that particular guy. At least with Dedan they proved they could win that battle.
This post was edited on 4/1/25 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 4/1/25 at 1:32 pm to drizztiger
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This post was edited on 4/1/25 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 4/1/25 at 1:38 pm to CP3forMVP
quote:What does this have to do with anything? I didn't say one thing about having to spend it all at once.
Do you have money in your bank account currently or do you drain it every time you get paid just for the hell of it? LSU football still has a nice chunk of change left in their NIL budget as well. Doesn't absolutely mean they'll spend it.
ETA: If you go back to my original statement this afternoon, I was curious when you and Jim got on the same page. You specifically stated prior to today we already raised and banked $6-8mil and he said, no way we'll have that much NIL. Jim scoffed at the idea and I specifically brought you up as the poster in the past. Now y'all holding hands.
This post was edited on 4/1/25 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:29 pm to The Pirate King
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Modern basketball is quite literally the sport where single players make differences in W/L. NBA coaches are mostly interchangeable these days.
Jesus, what an awful take, not surprising though.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:35 pm to mcspufftiger7
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Mcspufftiger7
Holy cow you’re ignorant.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:55 pm to rutiger
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Jesus, what an awful take
Name 10 current NBA coaches without googling
bet you can't. And 1/5 players can most certainly win or lose games. Think about Cam Carter this year and what our record would have been without him.
This post was edited on 4/1/25 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:58 pm to rutiger
Yep. Johnny Jones had a team LOADED with talent (several NBA players INCLUDING the top pick in the draft), and we didn't win jack.
I would argue that coaching matters more than ever in college basketball these days.
I've gone to EYBL tournaments for years and let me tell you, those gyms are loaded with DUDES that can run, jump, shoot, pass and play defense when they're so inclined.
A few decades ago college basketball didn't half even half of the talent there is now, and it's spread all over the country.
You need a guy in charge who can recruit, handle manage, and get all those egos to win together successfully.
I would argue that coaching matters more than ever in college basketball these days.
I've gone to EYBL tournaments for years and let me tell you, those gyms are loaded with DUDES that can run, jump, shoot, pass and play defense when they're so inclined.
A few decades ago college basketball didn't half even half of the talent there is now, and it's spread all over the country.
You need a guy in charge who can recruit, handle manage, and get all those egos to win together successfully.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:02 pm to tigahlovah
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Johnny Jones had a team LOADED with talent (several NBA players INCLUDING the top pick in the draft), and we didn't win jack.
you mean the "top pick" who is considered one of the biggest busts of all time? Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:11 pm to The Pirate King
Simmons has turned into a joke but he had one of the greatest freshman seasons in conference history at LSU, was ROTY, All-NBA and an NBA All-Star for 3 of his first 4 fseasons so calling him the biggest bust ever is pretty stupid.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:12 pm to The Pirate King
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Think about Cam Carter this year and what our record would have been without him.
I was told with Reed we would have easily won 4-5 more SEC games yet we lost by double digits to a middle of the road Pitt team with him.
Arkansas didnt have their best player for the entire last month of the season and still made it to the sweet sixteen.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:22 pm to More beer please
It's called having talent einstein. It's why Auburn could still win without Broome. And games early in the year when they were all learning to play together has nothing to do with where LSU could have been with Reed once SEC started. Or do you not remember how badly Arkansas was playing at the beginning of the year. Show me more about how little you know about basketball.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:32 pm to mcspufftiger7
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It's called having talent einstein
Again, LSU had the 12th overall rated transfer class and the 4th best SEC recruiting class for 2024. According to On3
LSU had the 16th overall class and the 14th composite ranked class in 2024. According to 247
ESPN literally had us as #10 in their final recruiting rankings for 2024.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:33 pm to LINOESC
We will see how good he is but appears to be step up at the 1. Bigger question is what level of improvement is necessary for McM to keep his job. He will need several more and much better transfers to have a shot at hitting mid-pack in the SEC. And he will have to overpay for each as LSU hoops isn't a very attractive spot for a top prospect. We are still a long way from having a SEC competitive team. I hope he gets us there but doubt he will.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:34 pm to The Pirate King
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you mean the "top pick" who is considered one of the biggest busts of all time?
In the pros, not college
Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:38 pm to Mandtgr47
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The most knowledgeable posters on this board for Men's Basketball said that even with NIL, we would not get anyone that teams like KY and Florida wanted, because of our coach.
8 million is a lot more than was initially suggested in LSU media…
Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:45 pm to The Pirate King
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And 1/5 players can most certainly win or lose games. Think about Cam Carter this year and what our record would have been without him.
Rutgers had 2 of the top 5 players in the nba draft this year and didnt make the tourney.
Also, I could easily name 10 nba coaches.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:47 pm to The Pirate King
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one of the greatest freshman seasons in conference history at LSU, was ROTY, All-NBA and an NBA All-Star for 3 of his first 4 fseasons
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you mean the "top pick" who is considered one of the biggest busts of all time?
Another awful take.
You should stick to fluffing coach o’s nuts, thats what you’re best at.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:58 pm to rutiger
I don't care what the rankings say. None of that means anything when you lose 2 of your best and most important players for the year and have to depend on 4 freshmen, a soph and a jr who had hardly played in 3 years. I know you guys hate Mcmahon but geeze a little common sense would go a long way here. Had they fired him and hired Wade I would have been ecstatic and bought season tickets but that didn't happen so get over yourselves and let it play out. But quit acting like MM was on a level NIL playing field because he wasn't.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:58 pm to More beer please
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Again, LSU had the 12th overall rated transfer class and the 4th best SEC recruiting class for 2024.
According to On3 LSU had the 16th overall class and the 14th composite ranked class in 2024.
According to 247 ESPN literally had us as #10 in their final recruiting rankings for 2024.
Freshman typically aren’t heavy contributors in the men’s game, unless they’re highly ranked. While LSU had a solid class, their top ranked player was what, 57th? Those are program building type players, not guys who come in and heavily contribute year one.
LSU brought in a good recruiting class this past year, but if I remember correctly their top recruit was Vyc who was in the late 50s. When you get into the 50th, 60th, 70th ranked prospects you’re talking about guys who are program builders, developmental guys. Not necessarily guys who come in year one and contribute heavily. Those are more your top of the class sort of guys.
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