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re: "Daniels gives LSU the best chance to win games"

Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:37 am to
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:37 am to
Um...LSU struggled with Auburn which is a bad team. LSU is a bad team because it does not have effective QB play.

Posted by Bayoubengal205
Member since Nov 2016
1193 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:40 am to
I disagree. I think that part of JD’s struggles were due to this being the first SEC road game of his career. Also had some drops that stalled drives. Penalties were a big issue as well, stalling drives.

And also, I wouldn’t be surprised if his knee wasn’t already hurt from last week, and he made it worse last night. His slides are so awkward.

With that said, he does need to improve. That’s obvious. But I doubt you will see a performance worse than that at home against UT
Posted by DamnStrong1860
The Second City
Member since Oct 2012
3049 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:40 am to
All that typing from the OP doesn’t change the fact that Daniel’s was under center for the come back after being down 17-0. Same for the comeback against FSU and MSU.

Both of these things can be true:

1. Daniel’s is just ok.

2. Nuss ain’t ready.

You people wanna try something new for the sake of trying something. But there’s absolutely nothing you’ve seen from Nuss indicating he’s a better option right now than Daniels. If you say you have then I have to start questioning your agenda. . .
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23031 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:42 am to
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Auburn is a bad football team. We are going to struggle with teams that can score points.

You mean, like Miss State?

It is what it is. Whoever didn't think this team would struggle was delusional. There's a good reason the consensus in preseason was that 8-4 would be a good season this year, and people who thought that put Fla State as one of the wins.

Daniels is the most ready QB on the roster. Nuss isn't ready, and hasn't looked good when he comes in. Howard is going to redshirt.

I'd like a 300 yd passing game; Auburn's QB had one. I'd like a win more, we got that and they didn't.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36610 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:45 am to
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aybe go root for Miss St


Another team LSU beat with Jayden Daniels as starter
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28093 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:47 am to
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Thats telling we can still win with those atrocious numbers


Yes. Jordon Jefferson made it all the way to a Natty with those numbers



Except he had a fantastic OL and LSU’s defense was all world.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16560 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:47 am to
quote:

Both of these things can be true:

1. Daniel’s is just ok.

2. Nuss ain’t ready.

You people wanna try something new for the sake of trying something. But there’s absolutely nothing you’ve seen from Nuss indicating he’s a better option right now than Daniels. If you say you have then I have to start questioning your agenda. . .


I agree to an extent. The difference is we may have seen Daniels' ceiling. We haven't seen Nuss'. Nuss will most certainly produce more negative plays, but will push the ball down the field and get WRs more involved. The question is will the more dynamic passer's play negate the risk and possible negative plays? At this point we don't know because it's been determined we are going to play it safe.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
7147 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:51 am to
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How many games has Nussmeier been allowed to start?

Exactly. The playbook is entirely designed around Daniels. I’d like to see how Nuss executes a game plan designed for a pocket passer.
Posted by ellis197575
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2014
1414 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:52 am to
Meh, I kinda disagree. I think it's more accurate to say he's done well enough "not to lose most games" so far this year.

It's VERY telling that he's starting for his 4th straight season (albeit his 1st year at LSU) and he was outplayed by Auburn's 3rd string QB starting his 2nd game in college.

That is more telling of how bad our starter is. The coaches have him starting and us fans have no choice but to deal with it. However, JD hasn't shown any improvement from the FSU game.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64184 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:52 am to
quote:

I agree to an extent. The difference is we may have seen Daniels' ceiling. We haven't seen Nuss'. Nuss will most certainly produce more negative plays, but will push the ball down the field and get WRs more involved. The question is will the more dynamic passer's play negate the risk and possible negative plays? At this point we don't know because it's been determined we are going to play it safe.



My take is: haven't we all accepted this is a rebuild season? If we've accepted this then why are we wasting snaps on Daniels, who's had plenty of chances to improve, over Nuss who hasn't had a single start?

Why not let Nuss get his lumps in on a throwaway season ? Why are we playing like we're protecting a perfect season? This isn't 2011. We're not going to win anything with this playstyle and we're not getting a new scheme mid-season. So I don't see how Nuss isn't clearly an option because it's the only shakeup we can make.


At the least start Nuss for the first few series of the next game and see how it goes. If nothing happens put Daniels in again. I'm not seeing why they're willing to accept the stagnant passing game.
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 10:54 am
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29747 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:54 am to
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Auburn did a great job maintaining discipline on the rush and pressured him often.

THIS IS A LIE. He had little to no pressure. He often sat back for 5-6 seconds and didn’t do anything.

Auburn JOHNNY MANZIEL’d his arse.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15447 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:56 am to
He has no arm. Look for several shutouts or close shutouts with the SEC schedule.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16560 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:00 am to
I don't disagree. I wouldn't be totally surprised if BK doesn't see it too and he knows a bad loss is looming out there and that will give him catalyst to make the switch. As long as we win, switching QBs looks insane. That being said, Saban did it in the NC with Hurts.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15447 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:00 am to
It is not. It is an indictment of the QB situation at LSU. Daniels cannot play the position. He should be a RB or WR, maybe a DB, but he is out of his element.

Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15447 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:06 am to
Comforting thoughts. Thank you for that...

Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
7147 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:30 am to
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Why not let Nuss get his lumps in on a throwaway season ?

Don’t worry this will happen if/when goals are out of reach. Right now we are still technically a contender on the west.
Posted by JColtF
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Aug 2008
4760 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:51 am to
Daniels is here to take lumps so Nuss can develop
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91386 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:54 am to
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At the least start Nuss for the first few series of the next game and see how it goes. If nothing happens put Daniels in again. I'm not seeing why they're willing to accept the stagnant passing game.


Unless Daniels is hurt this is crazy.

Take reps away from your starter going into the biggest game of the season in order to give reps to a guy you clearly think is inferior.
Posted by bkhrph
Lake Charles
Member since May 2022
324 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 12:07 pm to
Even with Nuss, the receivers weren’t catching balls they should’ve. And one pass was caught 2 inches out of bounds, if I remember correctly.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78365 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 12:09 pm to
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Why is Nuss getting judged on a handful of throws to the exact degree Daniels is being judged after 30+ starts?


Because Nus isn’t getting 30+ starts this year and we are arguing now and not potential.

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