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re: Criticize CBK, but he had better SEC conference record than Kiffin past three years!

Posted on 11/19/25 at 7:20 pm to
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17048 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 7:20 pm to
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I want Kiffin…but you have a fair point.


How is it fair. CBK had LSU talent, facilities, and Tiger Stadium. Kiffen did not.
Posted by homemadeshine
Member since Dec 2024
382 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 7:24 pm to
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Kelly had to go. It’s silly to compare their records at this point, he was done and was always planning to get paid to go away if it didn’t work out.


I'm in full support that Kelly needed to be fired, but I don't support LSU going after a coach that hasn't won a damn thing his entire career and that includes two stops at two prominent schools in UT and USC!

Please, tell me just one championship or one championship game that Kiffin as a HC has been a part of!

Seven seasons in SEC - no championships, never even made it to an SEC championship game, 11-24 against ranked teams at Ole Miss!

At Tennessee, Kiffin did not beat one ranked team all season!

4 seasons at USC - fired midseason, 3-4 against ranked teams, no championships, never even made it to a championship game

Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21673 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 7:30 pm to
You don’t develop talent in 2025 you go shopping in free agency and hope it works out
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
6555 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 7:33 pm to
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Now do BKs record against ranked teams


As of last year (not cherry picking just don't have newest data) BK was 4th in the SEC in ranked wins percentage at .486. LK was 10th at .314.

If this is the metric we're going with we want Fran Brown from Syracuse (.750). Better than Ryan Day. Better than Kirby Smart. shite, if this is the metric we're going with a Mike Gundy or Les Miles retread would be better than Kiffin.

Ranked winning percentage is strongly tied to the university. You can't point to a lot of P5 schools and say that coach is really outperforming his schools history. When you do find one they'll be snatched up to a more appropriate school with any kind of sustainment. Brent Key is probably the only one you can point to now.
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 9:04 pm
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
7087 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 7:36 pm to
But Kiffin has a pulse.
Posted by mike4lsu
Baton Rouge,LA
Member since Sep 2005
2004 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:13 pm to
The hatred for CBK is irrational, perhaps got to do with it not being a cultural fit.....Wins and losses have nothing to do with it....

The same was true for Les Miles. From the way he wore his hat, to the way he spoke to everything about him. And Les won a lot of ball games here. The players loved him, played hard for him. He recruited them and put them in them in the NFL like no other coach in history. With the vacated wins he won almost 75-80% of his games.

Les committed only one crime....he was not Nick Saban.....and LSU fans could never get over that.

For BK, he inherited a program in almost "death penalty" situation. Not only were we down to 42 players and just 1 true freshman QB, we were also on NCAA probation with NCAA ready to pass judgement.

We recovered under BK and won 2 back to back 10 win season. This year we have played with a hurt QB and a underclassmen backup still unpolished...

The BK firing was impulsive triggered by persons who did not have the best interest of the program at heart.

History will not be kind judge to us on this matter.


If we had known how bad Curly Hallman would have been, we would have kept Mike Archer. 2019 season not withstanding Les was a way better coach the EdEaux. The next coach will be hired for 13-15 million a year and at the end of the day the buyout will destroy us.
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
12552 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:26 pm to
Kelly was terrible and it was the right decision to let him go. 10 win seasons are meaningless. They are not materially different than 6 win seasons if there is no championship involved.

Kiffin is the wrong choice as well IMO because he’s a flake who has likewise accomplished nothing. LSU will regret hiring him and will be paying buyouts forever.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29262 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:34 pm to
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how do you rationalize firing a coach and paying his $54M buyout


Easy. He wasn't doing his damn job. He was mailing it in, and his bewilderment on the sidelines at every game showed that.
Posted by how333
Member since Dec 2020
3906 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:48 pm to
Bk is a fraud.
Posted by IrishDave
Member since Jan 2025
167 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:52 pm to
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Bk is a fraud.



Agreed.
Posted by alessic7
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2018
2403 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:52 pm to
if it's already been mentioned here sry, but Kiffin is not coming to LSU. Sending his ex wife out here for a visit is a bargaining ploy for Ole Miss to pay up. If y'all can't see that, ya blind.
Posted by Maverick14
Sulphur, La
Member since Aug 2014
3978 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:43 pm to
It’s so hard for these idiots to see this !
Posted by mike4lsu
Baton Rouge,LA
Member since Sep 2005
2004 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:12 pm to
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10 win seasons are meaningless. They are not materially different than 6 win seasons if there is no championship involved.


I hope you were a fan in the Curly Hallman era. You would have loved those 5-6 seasons.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35492 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:16 pm to
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So how do you rationalize firing a coach and paying his $54M buyout

I don’t give a shite what rich people do with their money. Why do you care?
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11248 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 11:22 pm to
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Lane Kiffin has a record of 11-24 against ranked opponents as the Ole Miss head coach.


Not even close. Where do you come up with this shite? He is 8-11 against ranked teams as Ole Miss coach.


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OK, I'm still waiting.....


You dont seem to like common sense, so you might not grasp this but, Ole Miss is not a good football school. It is very hard to win at Ole Miss. They were bad before Kiffin, and I will bet you the coach after Kiffin will not have winning conference record before being fired.

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You also cant seem to differentiate facts from made up bullshite, but but these are indeed actual facts. Since integration, Ole miss has had seasons in which they won 9 regular season games six times. Four of those seasons were with Kiffin. They have won 10 regular season games three times in their ENTIRE history. All three were under Kiffin, all in the last four years. Ole Miss has won 11 games in a whole season only once. That was under Lane Kiffin. If they beat State next weekend, it will be the second time.

I am not a Kiffin fan boy but he is by far the best coach on the market we can reasonably land.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
18657 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 11:27 pm to
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Numbers don't lie!

I guess they do when you purposely leave out his losses this year.
Posted by Kool Kaliper
Mansfield, TX
Member since Nov 2018
2821 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:12 am to
I appreciate this information.
Posted by homemadeshine
Member since Dec 2024
382 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:34 am to
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How is it fair. CBK had LSU talent, facilities, and Tiger Stadium. Kiffen did not.


Last time I checked Tennessee and USC both have lots of money and facilities and he was awful at both places.

Quit talking about OM like they are ULM. OM has money, just not at the level of some of the other SEC schools.

You guys talk about OM like they are on food stamps or have taped up equipment from 20 years ago because they can't afford anything else. I've never seen Kiffin's home but something tells me it's not a shack on the river!

The reality is Kiffin has never won anything as an SEC coach in 7 years and hasn't won anything worth talking about in his entire career. If you want a 10-3 record every year and miss the playoffs, then he's your guy!
This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 9:35 am
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2961 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:38 am to
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Numbers don't lie!


What do the numbers say when you include the year that got BK fired? What rationale did you use to leave out this year? This poor decision on your part makes this whole thread stupid!
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
11882 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 12:28 pm to
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Lane didn’t go a great job last year. I’ll give you that. That should have been a playoff team.


And he Coached the teams as if they were a playoff team and it cost them. This year he has been better in the game management. If he would have managed the games last year similar to this season they would have been in the playoff. Learn from mistakes.

Your best teams don't always win the Championship. Saban has argued his best Bama team was actually 2013. And one of his worst teams was 2015 but they won the Championship. It happens.
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