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re: Crews Exit Velocity - Thursday Night HR?

Posted on 5/23/21 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by Tiger1988
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 12:03 pm to
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You’re saying crews has a shitty approach?


No shite stirrer. Good try.
However, if I’m pitching Crews, I’m throwing changes, curves and spikes plus pitching him up and in. He has holes in his swing. Go watch him close and you will see he has not adjusted and is a sucker for a change tailing down.
This post was edited on 5/23/21 at 12:04 pm
Posted by upgrade
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 12:08 pm to
It is simply a tool to look at for something that doesn’t show up on a scorecard.

If there’s a guy driving the ball 100 mph 2-3 times a game for 4 games in a row but he doesn’t have a hit, would you take this player out of the lineup? He’s getting good contact, the ball is just not finding grass.
Posted by Tiger1988
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 12:10 pm to
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What if I told you it has been this way since the beginning of time? The goal has always been to hit it hard and it has always been easier to do that against shitty pitching than mediocre pitching, and even harder to do it against good pitching than mediocre pitching. That’s generally how you come to be considered good pitching, by not being hit hard.

There’s just ways to measure how hard it’s being hit now.


Agree. The part that I posted on multiple times is the constant focus on hit instead of making contact and hitting the pitch where it is being pitched. That’s why Ks are at an all time high in baseball and MLB is discussing making a change to the mound like they did in the early 1900’s moving it back.
LSU is mediocre in the SEC in hitting. They sit around 8th in both hitting and pitching. I bet their advanced analytics on situational hitting is even worse. Crews has very few RBIs for a 3 hole hitter. Why?

I present Alex Bregman in 2021. Note who his coach is. Look at his BA. He is hitting 20-30 points higher than his career average. While it is early still,
Baker has forced him to start hitting to all fields versus trying to lift and pull everything to the Crawford Boxes.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 12:12 pm to
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However, if I’m pitching Crews, I’m throwing changes, curves and spikes plus pitching him up and in. He has holes in his swing. Go watch him close and you will see he has not adjusted and is a sucker for a change tailing down.

So you aren’t throwing Crews fastballs down the middle? Good call.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 12:12 pm to
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It is simply a tool to look at for something that doesn’t show up on a scorecard.

If there’s a guy driving the ball 100 mph 2-3 times a game for 4 games in a row but he doesn’t have a hit, would you take this player out of the lineup? He’s getting good contact, the ball is just not finding grass.


if he continues to pop it a mile high, do you keep him in?
Posted by upgrade
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 12:14 pm to
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Crews has very few RBIs for a 3 hole hitter. Why?


He’s not a 3 hole hitter. Maybe a game or two? He spent half the year leading off.
Posted by UpToPar
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 12:16 pm to
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Dylan Crews 115.4 mph


To put this in perspective, only 11 players in the MLB have hit a ball harder this year.
Posted by upgrade
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 12:16 pm to
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he continues to pop it a mile high, do you keep him in?


I think we’ve had this argument on this board a few times.

Do pop ups come off the bat at that high a velocity? I don’t have that data but I imagine they don’t.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 12:19 pm to
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if he continues to pop it a mile high, do you keep him in?
What does this have to do with the post you replied to? Pop ups aren’t coming off the bat 100 mph.

Also Bregman hit 20 points lower in 2019 than he’s hitting now and was still a significantly more productive hitter.
This post was edited on 5/23/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 12:20 pm to
Pop ups do not have a high exit velocity
Posted by 3rdPart Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 12:24 pm to
So you’re saying a major leaguer in his 5th year, 2-time All Star, and Silver Slugger Award winner is a more polished hitter than a true freshman.

Riveting.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 12:29 pm to
No, he’s saying Bregman is a better hitter under Dusty Baker than he was when he was a legitimate MVP candidate.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 12:49 pm to
The frick is going in here?
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:09 pm to
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So you aren’t throwing Crews fastballs down the middle? Good call.

I’m throwing them down and in an open out. And then I’m throwing a change down. That’s how I’m pitching out. Front words and backwards.
But be an arse about it. He struck out on a pitch down the middle just other day. He was looking for something else
Posted by LesnarF5
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:11 pm to
IMO THE most important question we should be asking is What Was The Titty Pic Right Before Crews Hit It?
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:16 pm to
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The frick is going in here?
We’ve been notified that people didn’t start trying to hit the ball hard until exit velocities were measured.

Also a super freshman who is only in college because pro scouts weren’t convinced he was a first round pick due to swing and miss tendencies apparently should be pitched to with off speed away and fastballs not over the middle of the plate.

ETA: And apparently it’s possible to hit a pop up over 100 mph.
This post was edited on 5/23/21 at 1:17 pm
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:18 pm to
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So you’re saying a major leaguer in his 5th year, 2-time All Star, and Silver Slugger Award winner is a more polished hitter than a true freshman.

Riveting.

I gave an EXAMPLE of that all star Alex Bregman’s flaws and why his coach changed the way he is hitting approach. His coach Dusty Baker was a fantastic hitter that hit to all parts of the field. He has changed Alex’s approach at the plate because Alex had holes in his swing by just trying to drive the ball up and out into the Crawford boxes.

Crews is a major league talent that has a massive upside. No question. I only pointed out the holes in the swing. No different than Dusty Baker pointing out the holes in Alex‘s swing. Nice try but you swung and missed.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24334 posts
Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:21 pm to
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Pop ups do not have a high exit velocity

That was tongue and cheek in reference to Cade B who has had a crime done to his hitting approach by our coach. He was a natural driver of the ball and well, that is gone.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85039 posts
Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:24 pm to
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people didn’t start trying to hit the ball hard until exit velocities were measured.
Just like pitchers didn’t start trying to throw hard until radar guns. Makes sense.
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pro scouts weren’t convinced he was a first round pick due to swing and miss tendencies
As shown by his 15.6% K rate.
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should be pitched to with off speed away and fastballs not over the middle of the plate.
This is true imho.
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it’s possible to hit a pop up over 100 mph.
Maybe uncle Rico can.
Posted by mikelbr
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:30 pm to
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That was tongue and cheek in reference to Cade B who has had a crime done to his hitting approach by our coach. He was a natural driver of the ball and well, that is gone.


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