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Crazy baseball stat on hitting with bases loaded versus with runners in scoring position

Posted on 4/25/22 at 3:17 pm
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
14279 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 3:17 pm
With the bases loaded Tigers are

9 for 53 or .170 in all games (13th in SEC)
2 for 13 or .154 in SEC games (13th in SEC)


With runners in scoring position they are

133 of 409 or .325 in all games (3rd in SEC)
46 of 155 or .297 in SEC games (3rd in SEC)


And since scoring position includes the bases loaded, you can calculate that with runners on 2nd and 3rd, and only 2nd, and only 3rd they are

124 of 356 or .348 in all games and
44 of 142 or .310 in SEC games

Watching the games, it seems that the struggle is with RISP, but it really is just with bases loaded for some strange reason.

Link to stats
Posted by Jebadeb
Member since Oct 2017
5839 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 3:49 pm to
Easier to get an out with the bases loaded?
Posted by Colonel Angus
Member since Aug 2007
2198 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 3:50 pm to
One reason is that with bases loaded, the DP comes into effect and force outs at any base. With runners on 2nd and 3rd, or just one of those, the force is taken away and usually the DP (unless there is a quirky line drive with some bad baserunning or a fly ball tag where the runner gets gunned).
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
10695 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 3:53 pm to
And we're still in the top quarter for runs scored. Our hitting stats are healthy. I'm not sweating over our average with the bases loaded if we're still scoring. I still have some issue with how little we've done with manufacturing runs - we rarely bunt, we rarely steal, we rarely hit and run. I saw a little more movement this past weekend (coupled with some situational hitting, i.e. hitting behind runners, hitting it on the ground when necessary, etc). Those little things are going to be the difference in games that your defense lets you down.
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 4:12 pm to
Batting order?

Early guys on base. Later guys making final out?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79425 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 4:13 pm to
It’s very hard to get 4 hits in a row.

So usually you have 1-2 outs by the time you’ve loaded the bases.

It’s why MLB teams out so much emphasis on power, and still try and hit over the shift
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
82955 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 4:33 pm to
Statistical anomaly really. Thats all there is to it.
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
14279 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 4:39 pm to
It's the difference in LSU's results relative to the rest of the SEC (13th and 3rd) that is unusual.

For example with bases loaded it is

1. Georgia
2. Tennessee
3. Missouri
4. Vanderbilt

With RISP it is

1. Missouri
2. Georgia
3. LSU
4. Tennessee


Maybe the sample size especially for SEC games is not enough for the law of averages to even things out. Hopefully, LSU begins to get hits with bases loaded like the other hitting stats say they should.
Posted by Bring Da Wood
Texas
Member since Dec 2006
2227 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 5:53 pm to
Seems like we strike out or hit a grounder with the bases loaded which are basically the 2 things you can’t do in that situation. Hopefully it’s an anomaly that will turn around given our avg with RISP.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
30748 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 5:55 pm to
They are 20-5 when committing 0-1 errors
They are 8-7 when committing 2+. There ya go.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
82955 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 6:26 pm to
Its a small sample size
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30982 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

They are 20-5 when committing 0-1 errors
They are 8-7 when committing 2+. There ya go.
Groundbreaking stuff
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
13462 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 7:54 am to
I think we all want to see us hit better with the bases loaded. But we should like how well we hit with RISP as a whole.
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