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re: Cowan needs to be a starter!
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:20 am to moneyg
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:20 am to moneyg
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Of course last night was an example of why you'd lose something if you did that. We almost certainly lose without him in the pen.
Not really. I'd have started Cowan last night to keep Anderson and Eyanson on schedule. If he gets you 6 or 7 innings, we probably would have had a big enough lead to have saved Evans. So we'd be going into game 2 today with a win, Anderson on his full rest, and everyone except Cowan available today. While hypothetical, it's a better situation that we are in right now with Anderson and Cowan done for the weekend.
Look. I'm fine with how last night played out. Never get upset about a W! I understand keeping Cowan for the pen. But when you have 27 innings to fill, I'd rather get the most out of our best arms. Cowan pitching 6-7 innings > Cowan pitching 4 per weekend.
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:22 am to Mats86
Can Cowan close a game on Sunday with two days rest? Seems like we stretch him a bit for a reliever. I thought they might bring in a closer but I understand when he is pitching so well leaving him in for the win
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:24 am to Asleepinthecove
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The kid has what it means to be a pitcher. His pitch ability is Greg Maddux like.
I saw some Doug Drabek in him, me.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:25 am to ulmtiger
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Can Cowan close a game on Sunday with two days rest?
Absolutely not if he's throwing this much in game 1. You dont really throw a guy 50-60 pitches and bring them out 2 days later again unless its a do or die situation in the NCAAT or something.
The following tuesday/wednesday OOC game? Sure, give him an inning. But he needs proper rest after throwing that much over 3-4 innings.
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 7:27 am
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:26 am to Asleepinthecove
Agreed. But until our pitchers step up to the task and demonstrate they can close out games for us, Cowan is doing exactly what he needs to do for now.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:58 am to Asleepinthecove
Maybe start going TBD on Sunday. If you need Cowan in relief for Friday or Saturday, use him there. If you get through Friday and Saturday not needing him out of the bullpen, start him Sunday.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:35 am to tigerdood8
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If you need Cowan in relief for Friday or Saturday, use him there. If you get through Friday and Saturday not needing him out of the bullpen, start him Sunday.
That might happen once all season.
I'd keep riding Shores until we get below .500 in SEC play. You play to win in Omaha and to win in Omaha you will need Shores
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:40 am to Asleepinthecove
I kinda agree who ever posted those stats of lsu pictures a few days ago I just couldn’t tell why Cowan stats where so good and he wasn’t getting more playing time
I assumed it was bc he was playing against lesser competition but seggs like he is just coming along slowly
I assumed it was bc he was playing against lesser competition but seggs like he is just coming along slowly
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:41 am to Yeti_Chaser
quote:I get the logic, but LSU baseball doesn’t make Omaha unless it hosts the regional / SR to get there. Which means you need a top 8 national seed. If you wait to get to below .500 in SEC play, that puts the national seed in real jeopardy, and then Omaha considerations are useless.
I'd keep riding Shores until we get below .500 in SEC play. You play to win in Omaha and to win in Omaha you will need Shores
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:41 am to ulmtiger
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Can Cowan close a game on Sunday with two days rest?
No. It shouldn't be done. If he played at Arky, DVH would absolutely run his arse out there. But that is something I don't recall Jay doing during the season after tossing 60 pitches in game 1.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:47 am to Asleepinthecove
If he was a starter, we would've lost last night's game.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:53 am to MetArl15
It was a bit of a hyperbole, but the point was that we're 5-2 in SEC play right now so i dont think its necessary to change anything yet. I do disagree on needing a top 8 seed. It'd be nice, but I think by the end of the season this will be the type of team that travels well. If you gave me the choice of having a top 8 seed but Shores never turns the corner vs being 9-16 with 3 legit starters plus Cowan I'll take the latter.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:56 am to Asleepinthecove
He was right where he needs to be. We may not have had another guy to stop moo state last night. Saturday and Sunday guys need to mature and pull their weight. 1 player on the team CANNOT win all 3 games.
He is our best pitcher and is our Friday guy if you really wanna look at it. However we CANT afford to change him from being relief for Anderson. Those 2 give us our best chance to win on friday night.
He shut the door on the Bulldogs and gave the team the motivation we needed.
He is our best pitcher and is our Friday guy if you really wanna look at it. However we CANT afford to change him from being relief for Anderson. Those 2 give us our best chance to win on friday night.
He shut the door on the Bulldogs and gave the team the motivation we needed.
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 9:04 am
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:01 am to cajuntiger85
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No his role is to come in, shut shite down when the starter is chased early, or be a 2nd closer
Disagree, last night was the perfect chance to start him, like many on here recommended. Then you still have Anderson tonight in his normal Friday role. Anderson looked off moving him up a day.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:13 am to Lester Earl
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His ability to come in relief and throw 3-4IP is more valuable than being a starter right now. They can dictate the situation(coming in with a lead) and it has a larger effect on the game. The flip side is if you do move him, you create a hole on the backend. There really isn't a reason to move him unless an injury pops up.
It doesn’t have to be either/or. They can use him like Arkansas used Hagen Smith in 2023. If a high leverage situation arises in Game 1 like the one last night, go with Cowan to try to close it out. If Anderson can give you 6-7 quality innings, then save Cowan.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:17 am to MikeTheTiger71
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It was the right call to bring him tonight, but now they are hurting the rest of the series
How are they hurting the rest of the series? Only two pitchers total are burned for the series. That's a good place to be after game 1
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unless Eyanson and Shores start pitching better and giving them more innings.
Eyanson will be fine
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:33 am to NoMercy
I thought Primeaux was looking good and maybe Ware.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:36 am to cajuntiger85
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To have 3 closers once (if) Guidry comes back is going to be a massive luxury with our buzz saw of an SEC schedule.
Why the frick has this place convinced itself that Guidry will be some sort of savior when/if he comes back this year?
Yall act like he’s gonna miss all this time and then come back like he never left…. You guys are setting yourself up for disappointment and placing unrealistic expectations on him. Stop it
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:42 am to lsufball19
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How are they hurting the rest of the series? Only two pitchers total are burned for the series. That's a good place to be after game 1
The bullpen is in good shape (relatively speaking), but the only two arms that have provided any consistent starter quality innings are gone. If Eyanson and Shores only go 3-4 innings each again, there aren’t 10-12 quality innings available out of the pen.
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Eyanson will be fine
And my comments started with IF. If Eyanson isn’t fine, then finding the innings to make it through the weekend is going to be problematic. If Eyanson and Shores can provide 10-12 quality innings, that changes the equation. Like I said, using Cowan for 4 high leverage innings to get the win was the right call. You don’t save him just in case when you have an obvious need in Game 1. It just leaves them needing Eyanson and Shores to have their first good SEC outings of the season.
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 9:43 am
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:42 am to Yeti_Chaser
I 100% agree that we need Shores. I just think Cowan profiles better as a starter, and Shores profiles better as a reliever.
Cowan can probably go deeper into games more consistently, which would shrink the amount of innings needed from our bullpen on the weekends.
Cowan can probably go deeper into games more consistently, which would shrink the amount of innings needed from our bullpen on the weekends.
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