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Posted on 8/31/24 at 9:23 am to Alt26
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That game was lost the second Alabama was named the second team in the game
Alabama was just a better team. Most here don't want to admit it. They proved it by spanking us hard that night.
The fact is, deep down we all knew it, that's why everyone STILL cries about the mulligan. We didn't want to be exposed for what we were once Jordan Jefferson came back: A great team with zero offense and a retarded coach.
This post was edited on 8/31/24 at 9:24 am
Posted on 8/31/24 at 11:00 am to theunknownknight
^^this
objective fans knew what was going to happen when bama was announced to play in that game
i wasn’t even shocked witnessing that asswhooping, i honestly expected it
objective fans knew what was going to happen when bama was announced to play in that game
i wasn’t even shocked witnessing that asswhooping, i honestly expected it
Posted on 8/31/24 at 11:08 am to theunknownknight
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and a retarded coach.
This was why I had zero faith when they got a mulligan, not the actual strength of our team. I knew Nick would learn a book's worth of information from the first game; I knew Les wouldn't learn a fricking thing. If you kept the same teams but swapped coaches, we would have beaten them by 14.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:21 pm to cfish140
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Jarret Lee makes 0 difference in that game. I understand putting him in to shake things up because Jefferson couldn’t do shite but I think he comes in with that deer in a headlights look and just throws pics like he did in the 9-6 game
It’s not so much what JL could have done or not done in the game, but Les completely changing what had been working. Regular season for 2011 was different than any other Les season. We finished teams off, put up a lot of points consistently (outside of Bama & maybe State), usually controlled time of possession, and played a complete regular season without any sleepwalk games. But you also knew Les was itching to make Jefferson the starter as soon as he came back from suspension in spite of the success. Les didn’t even let Lee throw a pass or maybe even take a snap against A&M in Lee’s home state for Cotton Bowl after 2010 (can’t remember who did kneel downs). If Jefferson hadn’t been suspended he probably would have done the same for Oregon game in 2011.
After using 2 QBs while beating Bama two times in a row and playing that complete 2011 regular season Les told Saban he only need to prepare for one (Les also bragged in an interview about beating Saban 2 times in a row & then never beat Saban again). Jefferson was a head case and didn’t need to feel that the job was 100% his. If you go back to SEC Championship you could see the inconsistent Jefferson coming back. He had only 30 yards passing and a net 25 total yards. Jefferson and Lee could feed off the other playing poorly in a game. It was like one sucking gave the other confidence he would at least be better than that. Using 2 QBs was also about the only way Les would show different looks to a defense. I don’t know about winning as Les had turned back into regular Les over the awards season and into the new year, but I do think if they had kept the QB rotation we would have at least scored. Lee came into the 2010 Bama game and played well.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:11 pm to dallastigers
All I got to say is thank god the transfer portal didn’t exist while Les was coach.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:36 pm to SDVTiger
Yes
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:56 pm to SDVTiger
He almost certainly would have hit a Bama DB in stride on a slant for 6.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:18 pm to ZenFNmaster
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He almost certainly would have hit a Bama DB in stride on a slant for 6.
You're thinking of Jordan Jefferson.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:48 pm to Tangineck
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Here is all that matters about the 2011 season: Lsu was a better football team than Alabama
The same people that make this claim will turn around and say JJ and Lee were awful QBs.
How a team with two awful options at QB were supposedly better than a team with their own historic defense and a not awful QB to go against our historic defense has always been one of the sillier notions about the whole ridiculous ending to the 2011 season and how it played out.
And I’ll add this, take Mathieu off of that 2011 defense and it was good, not historic. Similar to what we saw in 2012.
Take any one player off of that 2011 Alabama defense and guess what, they were still historically good. They were just as good and far deeper.
Mathieu was the X factor that made that entire team exceptional, including the offense and run game as he single-handedly gave us extra possessions, if not straight up points, every game to give the OL and run game time to wear down opponents.
Find a way to neutralize Mathieu, which The Rematch allowed Saban to do, and Alabama rolls over us exactly how they did on 1/9.
Alabama was a more complete team, much deeper, just as physical, and had a better HC and QB play.
Beating them on the road on 11/5 in “The Game of the Century” should have been a historic win that is still revered to this day on the way to our 3rd BCS Championship in nine seasons with a win over Oklahoma State. But the media decided to ignore the results on the field and anoint Saban and Alabama as more deserving than a Big 12 Champion that had the same record and better wins based on who had the “better” loss because they wanted what they thought would give them the best ratings.
That the rematch that no one wanted to see didn’t do well in the ratings was a small comfort, it was at least somewhat satisfying.
This post was edited on 8/31/24 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 8/31/24 at 6:15 pm to TigerKnights
Maybe look up each of their stats that year and get back to me.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 6:22 pm to ZenFNmaster
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Maybe look up each of their stats that year and get back to me.
Maybe look at the gif in the first page of this thread.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:17 pm to ZenFNmaster
See page 3 for JJ literally option pitching forward to an Alabama lb, a feat that had never been attempted or accomplished up until that point . For anyone who was unsure who got a chance in the NFL look it up. People let race affect their emotions when it comes to this . I’m black and JJ cost us the natty . Wish more people could do this .
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:32 pm to SDVTiger
Hard to say. Had Lee played more leading up to the NC, but coming in cold against that defense may not have made much difference. Our defense and special teams kept Bama out of the end zone until late in the game.
What a special group that LSU defense was.
I do think this was the game where most fans started to turn on Miles.
What a special group that LSU defense was.
I do think this was the game where most fans started to turn on Miles.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 8:10 pm to SDVTiger
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Could LSU Have Scored in the 2012 BCS Title Game if They Subbed in Jarrett Lee?
Yes. Next question.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 8:25 pm to SDVTiger
Good lord, this is triggering my first LSD flashback. Bad trip man
Posted on 8/31/24 at 9:01 pm to SDVTiger
I think so.
The offense did pretty damn good that year with Lee at qb. Landry and Beckham were developing every week. The offense was moving and scoring. THEN the Bama game happened.
Oh my gosh, Saban made a qb look bad just like he did to Rothlesberger and Eli at LSU. Well damn we can't have that so Miles threw Lee under the bus and started playing Jefferson . Offense went backwards, Landry and Beckham quit improving, and well, you know how the BCS game and SECCG went.
If Lee is in the game, he gives us a shot. Jordan couldn't throw worth a damn and they damn sure weren't going to let him run. He wasn't smart enough to figure out the Bama defense or respond to its pressure.
The offense did pretty damn good that year with Lee at qb. Landry and Beckham were developing every week. The offense was moving and scoring. THEN the Bama game happened.
Oh my gosh, Saban made a qb look bad just like he did to Rothlesberger and Eli at LSU. Well damn we can't have that so Miles threw Lee under the bus and started playing Jefferson . Offense went backwards, Landry and Beckham quit improving, and well, you know how the BCS game and SECCG went.
If Lee is in the game, he gives us a shot. Jordan couldn't throw worth a damn and they damn sure weren't going to let him run. He wasn't smart enough to figure out the Bama defense or respond to its pressure.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 9:11 pm to prplhze2000
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Bama defense or respond to its pressure.
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Lee
1 TD 7 INT in his career vs Saban
3/7 24 yards 2 INT on 11/5
No, Lee would not have made a difference on 1/9 which is why he didn’t play. Miles not putting him in that game was the biggest favor he ever did for Lee so he can continue to live in the broken hearts and tiny little minds of his knights thirteen years later
Posted on 8/31/24 at 9:28 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Lee would not have made a difference on 1/9 which is why he didn’t play
Yes, he would have and there's literally no way to play worse than Jordan Jefferson. So no it's not why he didn't play.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 9:35 pm to SDVTiger
Why are you worried about a game 12 years ago?
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