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Could it be Joe Sloan was an above avg OC who was shackled by Brian Kelly?

Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:03 pm
Posted by radicalizedtigah
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:03 pm
I mean, he’s killing it in Lexington.
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
10193 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:04 pm to
I think stein is the Brains. When asked why Kentucky would be better at SEC media days he said it’s “because of me.”
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:04 pm to
He also has a very good QB.
Posted by TopekaTiger
Member since Nov 2018
407 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:04 pm to
I’m gonna guess it’s more Will Stein who’s behind the offense… the same guy who was Oregon’s OC for the last few yrs. But BK does suck, so who knows
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Could it be Joe Sloan was an above avg OC who was shackled by Brian Kelly? I mean, he’s killing it in Lexington.



Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1897 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:08 pm to
Nobody ever blames the players….maybe LSU didn’t have quality players that could execute his system….
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
15391 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:10 pm to
Sloan is a QB coach.

Stein is the playcaller. Not a bad combo at all imo

Posted by JimTiger72
LA
Member since Jun 2023
20652 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

he’s killing it in Lexington

Sure…..

Against Youngstown State, A&M, South Alabama, & South Carolina

17 pts against Bama,
0pts & only 2 first downs in the 2nd half
Posted by duckblind56
South of Ellick
Member since Sep 2023
6217 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:11 pm to
I think it is a combination of Sloan is a decent OC but was shackled by Kelly, and Stein is an offensive minded coach that has what is starting to look like a really good QB.

Posted by specchaser
lafayette
Member since Feb 2008
2754 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:15 pm to
Stein implemented his scheme and brought in players to fit the scheme. Sloan has been calling plays but certainly Stein has serious input.
2019 LSU was Joe Brady’s scheme but Ensminger still called some plays. Watching Kentucky, that’s definitely not the LSU offense from last year and the OL is pretty good too.
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11914 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:15 pm to
Could be. It could also be that the has just improved now that he got some experience under his belt.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
6739 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:17 pm to
Stein designs the game plans. It’s pretty obvious that he really understands how to indemnify weaknesses in personnel , matchup, and scheme. He knows how to attack those. He then hands off the play calling to Sloan , who has done a solid job of executing. If you watched the TAM game , they did a great job of attacking the small corners with quick screens to split out TEs. When the same two safeties , they attacked with the outside zone run or play action post routes and post corners to Darby. They ran the TE screen twice in a row on two separate times. Caused those safeties to widen out even more. Then hit inside runs and the post. They are a nice pair and Stein has “coached up” Sloan.
Posted by DalenSA
2024 DAT RotY
Member since Jan 2023
11417 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

he’s killing it in Lexington
??

47th scoring offense
73rd passing offense
42nd rushing offense
138th 3rd down offense
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
83505 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:20 pm to
Kelly had good offenses for decades before sloan. I think sloan sucks as an OC if left to run an offense by himself. But if he gets helped by a brilliant mind, like most OCs, then he can look good
Posted by OverDwayneBowe
Member since Oct 2026
16 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:32 pm to
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17 pts against Bama,


I remember a time when 17 was about 3.5 years of Bama games for us lol. Grateful that isnt the case any longer.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
94566 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

47th scoring offense
73rd passing offense
42nd rushing offense
138th 3rd down offense




Posted by ColeByBlood
Member since Aug 2024
45 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:35 pm to
KY’s third down conversion rate is God awful. LSU’s third down conversion rate last year was awful. What did those teams share in common?
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
23211 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

I mean, he’s killing it in Lexington.



A. Stein's offense and Stein >>>>>>>>>> Sloan.

B. It's still not that great, albeit is year 1. It would be A LOT worse though if it was Sloan's. They have talent, but no depth and I have to think Sloan is calling 3rd down because they fricking suck at it like we did last year.


Kentucky Rushing YPP - 5.17 (35th nationally)

Kentucky Passing YPA - 8.0 (52nd nationally)

Kentucky 3rd Down Conversion % - 24.5% (dead last, 138th nationally)

Kentucky Offense TFL Allowed Per Game - 4.4 (43rd nationally)

Posted by hophead
Member since Nov 2007
2065 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

Nobody ever blames the players….maybe LSU didn’t have quality players that could execute his system….


And who is responsible for identifying needs, evaluating these players and going To get them?
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2959 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:45 pm to
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Paul Allen
quote:

He also has a very good QB.


I would think any Quarterback that make the cut and make the roster of any NFL team would be a very good QB

average career for a QB that makes opening day roster is 6 years in the NFL

LSU QB last two seasons made the NFL roster on a recent super bowl winner 3 of the last 7 seasons


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