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re: Cooper Moore needs surgery, out for the season

Posted on 4/20/26 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 9:15 pm to
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I appreciate the confidence. I’ve just had way too many bad takes about this team to be making bold claims like that lol

I mean I just think Schmidt/Evans/Moore will be extremely tough to beat on paper.

Schmidt took a massive leap year 1 to year 2. Evans is inconsistent on Fridays but has as much talent as anyone in the country. Moore is the perfect Sunday guy who was throwing like a Friday guy.

I don't think there would be a team in the country happier with their weekend rotation than that.
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 9:16 pm to
You arent wrong, this board just doesnt want to hear it right now
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
10355 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 9:26 pm to
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When should I start laughing?
Are you saying a weekend rotation of Schmidt/Evans/Moore would not be one of the best in the country, on paper, heading into the season?

UF loses Peterson but brings back King who is likely the best pitcher in the country next year.

OM likely replaces their entire rotation. 2/3 is best case scenario for them.

Arkansas loses their entire rotation. State loses their #1 guy, and better hope their #2 and #2 make big jumps. Texas loses 2/3. UCLA loses all three of their starters. Tenn is replacing 2/3.

Find me, on paper, a better weekend rotation than 2027 LSU.

Portal can change things, but there likely isn't a rotation I would trade ours for outside of MAYBE UF (because of the Bonafide #1) and Auburn.



Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
19780 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 9:27 pm to
People are just being pissy. If they can add 1-2 more top line relief options in the portal and keep 1-2 top line freshmen they’ll be more than fine pitching.

I agree if you have a dollar in the offseason. Spend 70 cents on the lineup and get it right.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
10355 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 9:28 pm to
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Him Evans and Schmidt are a good 3, 4, and 5

Just need 2 big guns
You people are insane.

Evans and Schmidt are likely first round picks. You don't know anything about the sport if you think they are Sunday/Midweek guys.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
10355 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 9:31 pm to
I'm just getting caught up and I'm beside myself

These people think (1) Casan Evans will accept transitioning to the bullpen in his money year; (2) William Schmidt can go get 6 in the midweek; (3) No one will get better; and (4) Top flight arms across the country are going to flock here to compete with 3 returning weekend starters.

It's insane.

Go find Deven Sheerin (tall ask, I know). Go find Nate Ackenhausen. Go find Riley Cooper and Eric Reyzelman. Supplement your staff with those guys, and use the rest of the $$$ on position players.

Between the returning staff and the risk guys, you will get enough capable arms to compete for a national title. We have seen it twice before.
Posted by ArcticTiger
North Pole
Member since Nov 2018
2842 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 9:32 pm to
As soon as it happened he pointed to his elbow. Anyone that bought Johnson’s BS about a Tricep is an Idiot!
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
10355 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 9:39 pm to
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As soon as it happened he pointed to his elbow. Anyone that bought Johnson’s BS about a Tricep is an Idiot!

Has there been anything to disprove it being a tricep injury?

If it was an elbow injury, requiring Tommy John, he wouldn't be back next year. He'd be back in 2028.

Just because it's season ending, doesn't mean (1) that it had to be; or (2) that it isn't a tricep.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18914 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 9:58 pm to
I’m not really disagreeing with you, I just hesitate to say that about a group of guys that, as we discussed earlier today, have similar numbers to Ma’Kail Hilliard and Ty Floyd in 2022. They could all make a massive jump like Floyd did. Or they could all stay similar to what they are now, or even regress. There’s no way to know.

I mean just look at this year. I can count 5 pitchers that have regressed from last year to this year.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18914 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:08 pm to
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People are just being pissy.

It’s ok for people to be uncertain and not pissy.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
14027 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:16 pm to
May he have a speedy recovery and be on the mound throwing the winning pitch for next year’s national championship.
Posted by Corn Dawg Nation
Member since Oct 2009
3642 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:17 pm to
Best Staff in country talk has to be somewhat proven with minimal question marks. These guys are talented, yet largely needing to improve to be considered. Capable? Possibly……
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
10355 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:20 pm to
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I’m not really disagreeing with you
I know, I was just more thoroughly explaining my point, especially after seeing some of these replies.
quote:

I just hesitate to say that about a group of guys that, as we discussed earlier today, have similar numbers to Ma’Kail Hilliard and Ty Floyd in 2022.
IMO, the difference here is all of these guys have shown to be better (on multiple occassions) than Floyd had ever shown in his career at that point. Evans did it on the biggest stage, and Schmidt looks like a 1.1 guy through 4 innings half the time.

I think Hilliard is more of an outlier in general in terms of pitching style. These guys all have big league potential. Hilliard was always going to top out in college, but his style allowed him some success on this stage. Just not sustainable.
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I mean just look at this year. I can count 5 pitchers that have regressed from last year to this year.

The only one to me that is truly unexplainable is Williams.

Evans - thrust him into a Friday night spot, and like I said, never really caught any breaks. Like every single base runner seemed to matter so much to him, when we saw him work his way out of bases loaded jams last year.

Rizy - I think he would have been successful had the team been successful, when it mattered. Similar to Shores/Mayers. Work through the kinks all year and kick it in late in the season. Maybe not. Maybe he's just a lost cause. I choose to believe he is a Yeskie project and it will click at some point.

Cowan - Defense has really let him down this year and inflated his ERA.

Noot - I think we unfortunately got his best last year. Some guys don't recover from injury well, and I think he was just a casualty of that.

Again, I think the Yeskie MO is letting them find themselves in season, and turning it on late. This team just couldn't afford that. Maybe it's a strategy we can't use anymore with the lack of the team building aspect of the sport and need to reevaluate how we coach our pitchers. Maybe it was a one off. I think we'll find out next year.

I am generally an optimist, so I could just be way off and have it all wrong. It's just hard for me to forget how good some of these guys have been during their time here. It's not like I'm talking about guys that have had one good outing in three years or something. See what I'm saying?
Posted by chadr07
Rapides Parish
Member since Jan 2015
14372 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:27 pm to
I should’ve freaking known this back when Jay said he will be out only 2-3 weeks. Every time he says that about a player they end up out for the year
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
2224 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:44 pm to
Every time, like Cade Arrambide and Chris Stanfield?
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
10355 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 11:14 pm to
Also, Jay said 3 weeks was best case scenario.

Here is what he said:
quote:

“Theres nothing structurally wrong, but there is some swelling that we need to get down,” said LSU head coach Jay Johnson.

“So, the only way to do that is to give him some time which is about probably a week to 10 days. And then, to be responsible with his returns to throwing, a minimum of a week to 10 days. I kind up just added those two up, and it’s probably about three weeks from now is probably bets case scenario.”

That was a month ago. They said he is having surgery to repair "tissue" in the arm, which is not a structural injury.

I'd be welling to bet that after this weekend, Jay said there was no point in rushing him back this season.

Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18914 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:18 am to
Yeah I think we are mainly on the same page. I guess my bigger point was that I never like to take a group of players and just say “they’ll all improve” because that rarely happens. Generally some will improve, some will stay the same, and some will regress. At least from a statistical standpoint.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
22597 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:57 am to
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Do you honestly think lsu is about to bring in 3 top flight top 30 pitchers in the country in from the portal?


If anyone thinks this, they didn't listen to Jay's comments at all last Friday.
Posted by Lee Chatelain
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:13 am to
Thanks Matt. I'm sure you got the info from one of your many top-notch sources
Posted by Kool Kaliper
Mansfield, TX
Member since Nov 2018
3714 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:43 am to
Just a couple of months ago you guys couldn't wait until baseball season.
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