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re: Congrats to all of us who were conned by Alleva into liking Ed

Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by BTRDD
Member since Jun 2009
3914 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:20 pm to
O did a good job with the 2016 team. 2017 is lacking the experience and depth of that team. O deserves the time to rebuild, any anyone who thinks LSU isn't rebuilding is sadly mistaken.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
6730 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:32 pm to
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O did a good job with the 2016 team. 2017 is lacking the experience and depth of that team. O deserves the time to rebuild, any anyone who thinks LSU isn't rebuilding is sadly mistaken.

Last year O had the benefit of Les Miles preparing the team and managing the offseason. Anyone could’ve come in last year and given the team a spark. O did no better than Les Miles could have done. ( see Florida 2016)
Les miles managed the program very well during the off season. He had many faults and I was happy he was fired. But Coach lovers need to realize that managing the program in the off season is just as important (if not more) than what we see on game day. O has never proven he can manage a program. He does not deserve anything. He is overpaid for job In which he is grossly under qualified.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
31337 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:36 pm to
So...the 1-3 record this year for a NC coach who lost his starting QB bothers you.


But the resume and track record of Orgeron didn't/doesn't?



SMH.


Special kind of stupid on this board.
Posted by rider45
Ohio
Member since Sep 2017
49 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:37 pm to
This isnt helping. Get use to it. Orgeron is here for at least 2 years. Try to support the team that's here not the ones who left.
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7434 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:37 pm to
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Ed O may not be the right guy, but he was handed a dumpster fire.


He wasn't handed anything. He was on Les's staff. As he said in his first press conference as interim, "I am the head coach at LSU until somebody tells me different." So now in what is essentially year 2 as head coach and year 3 being at LSU he was "handed a dumpster fire"? Oops, sorry guys, now it's a dumpster fire. Not last year when he was given the benefit of the doubt stepping in? Nope. Not the year before as an assistant? Nope. LSU only became a dumpster fire after he got his arse kicked by Moo State and Troy. In other words, Ed Orgeron turned it into a dumpster fire and now he has to put the fire out. The intellectual dishonesty of some of you is beyond reproach.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:52 pm to
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He basically has won 80% of his games, is one of the top 4 winningest coaches and is one of only 4 active coaches that have won an NC.

Baw, I dun hurd 'dem Jimbo pumpers is deeloosional.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22637 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:53 pm to
I sometimes have random thoughts too
Posted by DontCare
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
2516 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:58 pm to
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Jimbo pumpers are freaking delusional.

Herman >>> Jimbo

I agree with the first part. But Herman and Jimbo are both super meh.
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 1:02 pm to
Christian Ponder
EJ Manuel
Jameis Winston
Jamarcus Russell

All first round draft picks, regardless of how they turned out in the pros. Who else has this success grooming QB's?
Posted by Milk
central
Member since May 2010
1270 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 1:11 pm to
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You FN idiots that have the obsession with JF really need to get mental help. He is 1-3. PERIOD. If any coach started 1-3 at LSU no matter who we played, there would be rioting in the streets.

He rode 1 good QB to fame and hasn't done shite since (nor did he do shite before).... and in a time when the ACC sucked! He recruits well, but doesn't really develop anyone.

And guess what MORONS... now that Clemson is good, Miami is gonna get better, NC state, etc, he is being exposed for the overrated chump he is....



Except for calling people morons, dumbasses and being a general jerk in your wording I agree with you. Fisher has only had 1 or 2 games every year against good teams and has underachieved most years.

If I was going to get a new coach I would hire Penn St to find them. Their last 2 have done an excellent job. Most schools would be doormats during and for years afterwards.
Posted by cra_cra
Member since Nov 2016
1743 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 2:14 pm to
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He wasn't handed anything. He was on Les's staff. As he said in his first press conference as interim, "I am the head coach at LSU until somebody tells me different." So now in what is essentially year 2 as head coach and year 3 being at LSU he was "handed a dumpster fire"? Oops, sorry guys, now it's a dumpster fire. Not last year when he was given the benefit of the doubt stepping in? Nope. Not the year before as an assistant? Nope. LSU only became a dumpster fire after he got his arse kicked by Moo State and Troy. In other words, Ed Orgeron turned it into a dumpster fire and now he has to put the fire out. The intellectual dishonesty of some of you is beyond reproach.



Are you serious????

Do you think LSU would FIRE a head coach after more than a decade and a national championship if the program wasn't in the dumpster??????????

There was clear downtrend with NO HOPE of it reversing under Miles because of the culture and reputation we had with the QB position. NO CHANCE.

The writing was also on the wall with a severely depleted roster at basically every position except DB and TE. Why else are 22 freshman either starting are playing significant snaps.

THAT SIR, is a dumpster fire.

Now, if ED O cannot do what he does best, recruit and fill those gaps quickly, then he doesn't deserve to be the coach at LSU. Granted, he can't recruit by himself, but he doesn't have the luxury of blaming anyone going forward.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
25696 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 2:20 pm to
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Do you think LSU would FIRE a head coach after more than a decade and a national championship if the program wasn't in the dumpster??????????

Yes, because that is actually what happened in real life. The only way to claim otherwise is to be intellectually dishonest.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 2:28 pm to
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Jimbo Fisher--1 win--3 losses


Since 2011 Jimbo is winning at a 84% clip. You have to be college football challenged not to respect such a record.

Although I was highly doubtful bout the Jimbo/LSU stuff, I would take the man in a heart beat.

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50690 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 2:35 pm to
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Do you think LSU would FIRE a head coach after more than a decade and a national championship if the program wasn't in the dumpster??????????

There was clear downtrend with NO HOPE of it reversing under Miles because of the culture and reputation we had with the QB position. NO CHANCE.


Downtrend =/= In the dumpster.

You don't seem too bright.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88647 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 2:36 pm to
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Jimbo Fisher--1 win--3 losses Also,



hey look everyone another football ignorant poster that cannot read a CV/resume.
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
7778 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 2:41 pm to


Not sure if his intelligence but.......I am sure he makes wayyyyyyy more than you do

LOL

Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41214 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 2:47 pm to
We forgive you.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 2:49 pm to
Wait O was coaching last night? I thought he was hands off like he said he was going to be when promoting himself for the job.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
86802 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

he was handed a dumpster fire.



Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
31337 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:17 pm to
Name one P5 school that would even consider hiring our current head coach if he were available.


Just one.


That will tell you how bad it is.
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